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  Xander Vos
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What he did was wrong (inviting children to sleep with him) but I believe that there was no molestation involved and, evidently, so do the courts. The man was a child, who had his actual childhood taken away by a abusive and pushy father and he subsequently acted like a child when he grew up.


There are plenty of criminals out there who've got some type of justification for their crimes. Just because Jackson is the king of pop, doesn't mean is excuse is anymore viable than any other joe out there who molests kids. Even if (and I find this doubtful) Jackson didn't molest these kids, sleeping with them is sickening.


Since when was sharing the bed with someone sickening? Confused I've shared a bed with my sister many times before, is that sickening?

I see MJ as a mixture of black, white, man, woman, adult and child, representing everything in all of us. He was an incredible singer, who was also incredibly eccentric. There seems inherent in humans a desire to hate what is unknown to us, or strange, and MJ was certainly strange. To say these sorts of things, especially after his death, are uneccessarily harsh.


You're actually justifying this?

It is a little weird, yes, but it doesn't compare to sharing a bed with somebody who is significantly under-aged.


Sharing a bed with someone is absolutely harmless. Whenever my family would go away on holidays and we'd book a room, there'd more than likely be two double beds, meaning my sister and I would share. Of course this has become more and more sparse as we get older - as it should - but if a situation ever arises where, for instance, we were at our cousins a few months ago and they had a guest room with one double bed, we shrugged our shoulders and put up a wall of pillows. Razz

My point being, even if we assume the allegations of sharing a bed are correct, Wacko Jacko may, actually have been merely sharing a bed.



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There's a difference between you sharing a bed with your sister and a 40 year old man sharing a bed with kids. There are no allegations. He openly stated he shared a bed with children in his documentary.
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I used to share a bed with my dad all the time when I was younger, and he was 40+ years old.
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My mistake. Sharing a bed with 40 year old kids that are of no relation to him.
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40 year old kids?  Razz
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Frak. I'm done.
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Sirak, if you hadn't screwed up the wording so much, I'd be inclined to agree Wink
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I have a question.

And it's the same thing with the Abstinince debate.

Who gives a s**t whither or not MJ molested people?

Elvis had underage sex, hell, Frank Sinatra had Mob connections, probably put out a hit on someone, yet no one seems to rant about the evil, twisted mind of Elvis Prestly, nor the Silver Tongued, Golden voiced mobster Frank Sinatra. So at the sake of sounding like Chris Crocker, Leave MJ alone.

He wrote [Frakin'] Thriller and [Frakin'] Smooth Criminal, so damn, he was certainly to be considered a genius, if not a strange one. Anyway, chances are, I sounded a bit to defensive, but you get my point.

Anyway, I shed a tear over MJ, be it a slight one, as I do not worship him as all the crazed fans that are still in their basements sobbing hysterically.
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So because Elvis had underaged sex (along with 2/3 of Americans) and Frank Sinatra had alledged mob ties, that puts them at the same level as a man who sexually violated children?
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Nobody can prove he sexually violated children, except for the children themselves. Have they said anything?
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Adenn wrote:
Nobody can prove he sexually violated children, except for the children themselves. Have they said anything?


Actually they did, at the time one boy was asked to describe spots on MJ's penis, and it was confirmed that it was accurate, but when MJ settled and paid him a sum of money, the case went away.
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Korus Zhett wrote:
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Nobody can prove he sexually violated children, except for the children themselves. Have they said anything?


Actually they did, at the time one boy was asked to describe spots on MJ's penis, and it was confirmed that it was accurate, but when MJ settled and paid him a sum of money, the case went away.


Hm, I'd like to see/read that.  Confused
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Korus Zhett wrote:
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Nobody can prove he sexually violated children, except for the children themselves. Have they said anything?


Actually they did, at the time one boy was asked to describe spots on MJ's penis, and it was confirmed that it was accurate, but when MJ settled and paid him a sum of money, the case went away.


That pretty much settles it for me.  Thats just.. well.. yeah pretty damning
Also, I think you just got pwnd Adenn.
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Dakoth wrote:
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Nobody can prove he sexually violated children, except for the children themselves. Have they said anything?


Actually they did, at the time one boy was asked to describe spots on MJ's penis, and it was confirmed that it was accurate, but when MJ settled and paid him a sum of money, the case went away.


That pretty much settles it for me.  Thats just.. well.. yeah pretty damning
Also, I think you just got pwnd Adenn.


Way to tell me.  Crying or Very sad
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Adenn wrote:
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Nobody can prove he sexually violated children, except for the children themselves. Have they said anything?


Actually they did, at the time one boy was asked to describe spots on MJ's penis, and it was confirmed that it was accurate, but when MJ settled and paid him a sum of money, the case went away.


Hm, I'd like to see/read that.  Confused


Like to see what?  Shocked



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