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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:27 am
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Dork of Mordork Jedi Council Member Joined: 12 Dec 2005 Posts: 10239 Location: Lemas Rive Caedo wrote: Dork of Mordork wrote: Grats. Now we promote people who spam? Sounds good. I'm not sure what you mean by spam? Was this in the distant past or recently? I recall you calling Embeion linking to "rebels.myfreeforum.org/index" as spam. But I think it was just that Embeion had never seen that page. I didn't see it myself until many months after the forum started. I haven't seen any evidence of well... anyone... spamming significantly in the past several months. Spamming is: 1. Posting multiple times in the same thread (replying to yourself dozens of times). 2. Posting the same thing in several threads at once. 3. Placing any sort of ad outside of the Links thread. 4. Posting something obviously completely off-topic in a thread (IE: interrupting a conversation on the effects of global warming with "ROAST BEEF!!!!!1111!!!! ZOMG!!!") I delete a lot of pointless posts. I consider this spam as well: " Rive Caedo wrote: I haven't seen any evidence of well... anyone... spamming significantly in the past several months. Spamming is: 1. Posting multiple times in the same thread (replying to yourself dozens of times). 2. Posting the same thing in several threads at once. 3. Placing any sort of ad outside of the Links thread. 4. Posting something obviously completely off-topic in a thread (IE: interrupting a conversation on the effects of global warming with "ROAST BEEF!!!!!1111!!!! ZOMG!!!") What he said" That's something I would also consider spam - quoting someone, and only saying "what he said" or even just quoting the person and having no comment of your own. Certain people on here do that, and it really bugs me, but I don't make the rules, so if you don't consider it spam, then alright. I can recall times when Embeion did do a little "zomg roast beef" action, but for the sake of not getting into an arguement, I'm gonna drop it. _________________ Ka mate! Ka mate! Ka ora! Ka ora! Tēnei te tangata pūhuruhuru, Nāna i tiki mai whakawhiti te rā, Upane...Upane. Upane kaupane. Whiti te rā! Hī!

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:43 am
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Ga'nen Jedi Knight - 2nd Degree Joined: 18 Nov 2007 Posts: 518 The internets are for SRZ bizness. To be honest quoting someone's post and saying I agree isn't productive to the topic but it's not spamming. Spamming is generally done intentionally to annoy other people. trust me, unless you've gone on livejournal and have spent the years i have there, you don't know anything about spamming. I don't think I've seen instances of spam but I guess if you're on some mad power-deleting trip then we don't see them. One thing to note is that you shouldn't just delete posts because you have the power and you think it's spam, it's just a good idea to keep in mind that unless it's disrupting a conversation then it's not spam and you should leave it unless it's offensive. That's just my opinion and experience from running and helping run forums.

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:19 am
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Lord Embeion Sith Spirit Joined: 05 Dec 2005 Posts: 9478 Location: LANDOS HOUSE PARTY I quote people and don't write anything alot of the time. But I don't quote posts like "Roast Beef is Cow A S S." Usually more like things in the topic we were talking about the 12/21/12 I would have done that. It's saying saying "You took the words outta my mouth", or showing you agree with something. I don't consider it spam in the least. Wah? I did the roast beef thing? I can't remember but I probably did. But I would think it would of been to get a thread back on-topic or wasn't specific to the current topic discussion but relevant to the topic itself. You do realize your going against Dakoth with this? and people who cross Dakoth tend to be beaten with a coat hanger. One more thing, what crawled up your pants. You seem really tense and not Brian like Spoiler: Quote: One thing to note is that you shouldn't just delete posts because you have the power and you think it's spam What he said Couldn't resist _________________

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 5:39 am
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Dork of Mordork Jedi Council Member Joined: 12 Dec 2005 Posts: 10239 Location: Lemas Ga'nen wrote: One thing to note is that you shouldn't just delete posts because you have the power and you think it's spam I don't see how when people post stuff that serious IS spam, like "ZOMG ROXORZ LOL" (yes, they have) and I delete that, I don't see how that's doing it just because I have the power. And about quoting someone and not even putting your input, remember quality not quantity. I don't know if anything got up my pants. _________________ Ka mate! Ka mate! Ka ora! Ka ora! Tēnei te tangata pūhuruhuru, Nāna i tiki mai whakawhiti te rā, Upane...Upane. Upane kaupane. Whiti te rā! Hī!

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 8:40 am
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Lord Embeion Sith Spirit Joined: 05 Dec 2005 Posts: 9478 Location: LANDOS HOUSE PARTY Quote: I don't know if anything got up my pants. Seems like someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed and then was made to shovel elephant dewdew. Quote: ZOMG ROXORZ LOL" (yes, they have) and I delete that If its a response to something they think is roxorz then why delete it. ABUSE OF MOD POWERS! BAN HAMMER! j/k.   We really are getting way to off-topic. Continue in General discussion thread plz.. Oh and I don't think there can be spam in a General discussion thread since it's sorta about everything. Yes even that _________________

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:56 pm
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Rive Caedo Jedi Grand Master Joined: 02 Dec 2005 Posts: 8300 Location: Kallibann Oh I'd say it's rather on-topic. The piece of news was involving a structural change to the Forum's power structure and this is a debate about that. Let's see... Situation 1: User 1 posts topic: "I think that Diablo 3 is going to be really awesome." User 2 replies: "Mmm, probably." User 3 replies: "Yeah, I heard you'll be able to summon an unholy axe of deathly doom." User 2 replies and quotes user 3: "ZOMG ROXORS LOL" Situation 2: User 1 posts topic: "I think that Diablo 3 is going to be really awesome." User 2 replies: "Mmm, probably." User 3 replies: "Yeah, I heard you'll be able to summon an unholy axe of deathly doom." User 1 replies: "Mmm, I'd be careful about listening to any rumor like that this early on - was it in the gameplay video?" User 2 replies: "Yeah, it was. Check 2 minutes in." User 4 replies: "ZOMG ROXORS LOL" User 2 replies: "Eh?" Situation 3: User 1 posts topic: "I think that Diablo 3 is going to be really awesome." User 2 replies: "Mmm, probably." User 3 replies: "You canz buy cheap goldz for world of warcraft!!!" Proper response to Situation 1: Don't delete the post. That's something that should be dealt with by the user base. Gently curbing someone's behavior to be a bit more... mature. EXCEPTION: The user has just replied to three other people in other threads with "ZOMG ROXORZ LOL". In that case, send the user a PM telling them to stop. Proper response to Situation 2: If there are no replies after that post yet - you can delete it. However, in this case, there already is a reply ("Eh?"). So the proper response is to reply to the topic with something along the lines of... "User 4, please stay on topic. Anyway, yeah. Diablo 3 should be pretty cool whenever it comes out." EXCEPTION: The user has just replied to at least one other thread seemingly without reason with random junk. In that case, deal with each thread the same way - but also send the user a PM telling them that completely random posting is not acceptable. Proper response to Situation 3: EX-TERM-I-NATE. EX-TERM-I-NATE. EX-TERM-I-NATE. That all seem rather rational? Quoting someone and saying "I agree with that completely" isn't as good as saying "I agree with that completely AND (insert a thought or two of your own)", but it's not spam and not something Mods need to worry about in an official capacity. If you notice someone is making a habit of it, it might be worth taking up with that user and trying to get them to curb their behavior. Embeion is obviously active in roleplay threads, general threads, etc. etc. and wouldn't be considered a "quote monster" - in my opinion Mods are keepers of the peace and snipers of blatantly offensive or inappropriate posts - not behavior police. That duty belongs the community as a whole. _________________ May The Force Be With Us, Always

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:20 pm
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Lord Invictus Grand Inquisitor Joined: 12 Oct 2007 Posts: 3652 Location: Formerly Lord Mortalis Ga'nen wrote: The internets are for SRZ bizness. To be honest quoting someone's post and saying I agree isn't productive to the topic but it's not spamming. Spamming is generally done intentionally to annoy other people. trust me, unless you've gone on livejournal and have spent the years i have there, you don't know anything about spamming. Pfft. You're 'years of service'? You've been on the forum less than a year. I joined up almost the same time as you and I call myself a noob still. Oh well, I'll try to get back on topic. Quote: ZOMG ROXORZ LOL I don't know what that even means. Help? I only understand the Lol.... Anyway, I do agree with saying, "what he said" sometimes. If you're agreeing with a post in a debate it's fine, but- stealing Rive's simulations. User 1: "Diablo 3 looks cool." User 2: LOL ROXORZ PWNAGE ((Etc.)) User 3: Shut up. User 2: M'kay. User 4: (quotes User 2's "M'kay") I totally agree, man. (then posts a photo of pikachu) Proper response: BAN HAMMER!!!! Whoa. All these "years" (as Ga'nen would put it ) that I've been active I thought Rebels broke off from TDSL.... SWEET! WE USED TO RULE YOU! I'm surprised Dakoth hasn't posted yet. He's the ultimate  spammer when it comes to quoting somebody and not writing anything (I mean that with all possible respect..... NOT THE BANHAMMER!)) _________________

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:37 pm
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Lord Lanik Sith Lord Joined: 05 Dec 2005 Posts: 6694 Location: In Sam's closet ZOMG= Zooming Over My Grandma or Zebras Outside Madison Gardons _________________ Jedi Abba wrote: "With Lanik dead this could stop.  The troops will be easier to kill." Abba looked at Lanik. "someone kill him, before I do."

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:56 pm
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Ga'nen Jedi Knight - 2nd Degree Joined: 18 Nov 2007 Posts: 518 Darth Mortalis wrote: Pfft. You're 'years of service'? You've been on the forum less than a year. I joined up almost the same time as you and I call myself a noob still. Oh well, I'll try to get back on topic. Ga'nen wrote: trust me, unless you've gone on livejournal and have spent the years i have there, you don't know anything about spamming. I meant the years I've spent on livejournal as well as greatestjournal. I've been all over the internets.

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:59 pm
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Lord Invictus Grand Inquisitor Joined: 12 Oct 2007 Posts: 3652 Location: Formerly Lord Mortalis Oh, I thought you wrote the years you spent here .   _________________

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 12:07 am
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Dakoth Senior Jedi Council Member Joined: 31 Jan 2006 Posts: 11225 Location: Arkua Lord Mortalis wrote: I'm surprised Dakoth hasn't posted yet. He's the ultimate  spammer when it comes to quoting somebody and not writing anything (I mean that with all possible respect..... NOT THE BANHAMMER!)) _________________ Audi famam illius                                    Aftershock.

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 1:20 pm
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Xander Vos Sith Emperor Joined: 08 Jan 2006 Posts: 19753 Location: The Sith Temple Brian, you really need to cool your heels. You're barely on as it is, and if you really are doing what you're doing and deleting posts, that's completely unnessecary. I haven't deleted a post in an incredibly long time, and if you're deleting as many posts as you seem to, that's just rediculous. _________________ Time to start again.

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:31 pm
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Dork of Mordork Jedi Council Member Joined: 12 Dec 2005 Posts: 10239 Location: Lemas Xander Vos wrote: Brian, you really need to cool your heels. You're barely on as it is, and if you really are doing what you're doing and deleting posts, that's completely unnessecary. That's already been cleared up, no need to bring it up anymore. None of you know how many posts I honestly deleted, but I assure you most of them were ones you would have deleted as well. Quote: I haven't deleted a post in an incredibly long time. Then maybe you should lend a hand. Quote: You're barely on as it is Different time zones, different times that you and I are on. You can't judge how much I'm on if you're not on when I am. I get on to check up on things, post if I'm interested, and I have it opened when I'm doing other computer stuff, but I don't live on here. _________________ Ka mate! Ka mate! Ka ora! Ka ora! Tēnei te tangata pūhuruhuru, Nāna i tiki mai whakawhiti te rā, Upane...Upane. Upane kaupane. Whiti te rā! Hī!

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:37 pm
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Rive Caedo Jedi Grand Master Joined: 02 Dec 2005 Posts: 8300 Location: Kallibann I just checked the logs on the main admin account - to make sure this isn't a problem (beyond a philosophical one for future actions). In the past three months... Mordork has deleted 4 posts. I've deleted 3. Dakoth has deleted 2. S&V has deleted 1. Xander has deleted 1. So no, I don't think this has really been a problem. You may also be interested to know that I'm BY FAR the most frequent editor of my own posts - mostly because I end up re-reading my own fan fiction/roleplaying posts and decide to reword something or add an entire section (and then often do it again). "Rive Caedo Performed An Edit on Post X" is probably half of the logged actions in the past 3 months. Heheh. Logs are fun   _________________ May The Force Be With Us, Always

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 3:16 pm
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Lord Lanik Sith Lord Joined: 05 Dec 2005 Posts: 6694 Location: In Sam's closet I edit quite a bit _________________ Jedi Abba wrote: "With Lanik dead this could stop.  The troops will be easier to kill." Abba looked at Lanik. "someone kill him, before I do."

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