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| Talen D'aar |
The Reason You Bought a PS3!God of War IIIThis game looks phenomenal! God of War 3 will easily trump anything the 360 is releasing in regards to graphics. Finally we're getting a game that is really showing off the PS3's brutal graphics engine and capabilities. I mean, come on, Kratos looks real enough to touch! Can't wait for this one to come out. Then we can all experience making the ancient greek gods extinct in full HD. 
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| Darth Samuel |
Yay! Let's pay $400 minimum for the system and then another $60 dollars for a game. Not to mention a possibly thousand dollar plus hdtv so you can get the best available graphics. 
Blu-ray = fail It's going to be outdated in 5 years. This is fact. |
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| Talen D'aar |
XD You're just jealous.
EDIT: Oh, and Blu-ray = epic. |
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| Darth Samuel |
You can spend that money. I'll sit here with my computer monitor playing HALO 3 in 900p online with my friends. Total cost? around $400.
Wait, I could have bought a PS3 that has no games included with that. Ooh, what a waste of my money on the 360.
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| Talen D'aar |
Actually every PS3 has at least one game included when you buy it. >.>
And the only reason I can spend that money is because I'd rather save it up to buy something awesome than waste it to buy something that's going to die in a few years. |
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| Darth Samuel |
Sacrifice a system with many online and in real life friends along with great games that almost everyone that has the system owns(except Io, cause he's all "I played HALO once and I sucked at it so BLAH BLAH BLAH I LIKE MADDEN NFL GAMES!!!!!!!!!!!!! HARDCORE FOOTBALL WYOMING RAWR!!!!!!!!") just because it breaks down? Microsoft fixes it for free, and even though it takes a month, big freaking whoop. If you can't last a month without videogames, it's sad and you should an hero NAO!!!!!!!!!!!!
Versus a system with pretty much 0 online friends, no one in my city owns one as 400 dollars is quite expensive, plus since no one owns one, noone is going to look forward to crappy online with horrible download times. |
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| Talen D'aar |
Well, that's your thoughts on the PS3 experience. Now let someone who has the system actually tell you what it's like. The online experience is about the same in regards to the 360, I have friends on the PSN, (both real-life, and people I've met), and I have just as much fun as anybody else on Live. And unless you're from a small city where you know EVERYONE, I think that statement's a little shallow.
Also, the PS3 has great games, and most the people I've met online have the same games I do, (obviously, since they're playing them). Yes, one main concern I have regarding the 360 is the red ring of death. I don't like having to worry over something that's supposed to calm me down. I've had the PS3 for about two years now and I've only had to send it in to get fixed once, and that was my fault to begin with. I know people that've had the 360 since it came out and had to send it in over five times. I don't want the 360 because I don't want to be playing an awesome game then for no reason it dies on me. And, I meant the dying part as the 360's lifespan as a whole. Not just the RROD. But now that you mention it, it does go both ways (like a bisexual). |
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| Darth Samuel |
Actually, recently made 360s are fitted with better cooling, so RROD is now mainly seen in older consoles or refurbished ones. Yes, the PS3 has some good games(LBP makes me want to kill whoever decided it should be an exclusive), and If I did have 460 extra dollars I would buy a PS3 and LBP. | ||||||
| shadowball2021 |
Yeah, its pretty freakin' awesome.
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| Lord Embeion |
 nuff said
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| Armia Delvron |
That seems extremely doubtful. Whereas DVD was able to take advantage of the screen quality of televisions that VHS had - for twenty years - been unable to take advantage of (and introduced navigation menus). It was still in the "standard definition" realm of televisions that have been mainstream since the 1950's. Blu-ray takes maximum advantage of the newly introduced HDTV's. You can't really get higher picture quality. HDTV's show 1080 lines of resolution at the maximum, Blu-ray uses that many lines. The next format shift will require either: A. New TVs (unlikely for 20-50 years). or B. A significant upgrade in storage capacity (a new format allowing you to put an entire season of a television series onto a single container at maximum quality - for instance. or C. The elimination of physical formats entirely and a transfer to purely digital storage over the interwebs. C is actually a possibility, but I still doubt it would happen for another 8 or 10 years. B is also something I'd place at the 10-15 year marker. In any case, Blu-ray is the new standard and the PS3 is a good way to get a cheap player for it while also being able to play some games. Therefore... uh.... what was I talking about? Oh yeah: as an impartial observer (owning neither a PS3 or a 360)... it looks nice, but not any significant improvement over the more visually stunning 360 games (such as Gears of War). The PS3 and 360 have nearly identical hardware in terms of power, so that makes sense. I didn't play the previous God of War games - but I heard they were fun and immersive games to play. That's what really matters. Not "omg, look! The skin textures look real enough to touch!" Particularly because I very much doubt you'll be able to see the skin textures at all when you're running around swinging giant swords at enemies 
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| Crozeus |
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d74/Rive-Caedo/t4.png
Found. Microsoft will probably buy the rights to GOWIII anyway. |
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| Lord Invictus |
Guess what? The 360 is almost as much, plus an adding internet cost! PS3 internet? FREE! Besides, PS3 can play normal DVDs if blue-ray= fail, which it doesn't! Blue-ray is THE new standard for programs. Also, I've never played God of War. Heard they're good, though. |
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| Darth Samuel |
Actually, the new standard is going to be video streaming. Netflix already does it in hd and in standard quality. Even Samsung UK, a strong Blu-ray supporter, says that Blu-ray will be dead in 5 years and forgotten in 10. http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-10042820-17.html?tag=mncol;title |
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| Crozeus |
360 is no way near as much.
Plus, 360 internet for 1 year = 1 game For the best community, and multiplayer action, exclusive downloads. Worth it. |
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| Lord Invictus |
360= holy crap, it's expensive, Crozeus.
PS3 isn't that much more expensive. 400$ vs. $200? That's a few years and the 360 keeps sucking your funds down the drain. |
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| Darth Samuel |
Because less than 5 dollars a month is soooooooooooooooooooooooooo much money.
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| shadowball2021 |
LOL, you guys should just get some katanas and take this out back and have a fight to the death over this console-war thingy. 
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| Lord Invictus |
It kind of is. |
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| Io Lee |
I find that truth misleading. For one I'm pretty decent in Halo but I find no interest in it. I'm really pissed at Madden 09 right now because it keeps on freezing on me half way through the second quarter. But that last thing is true. Anyway. I personally think that Sony products have a personal grudge against me. Whenever I get something Sony made it breaks on me. My first gaming console the PlayStation broke down on me, head phones, TV you name it. I've had my 360 for two years now. No problem whatsoever. The new dashboard is awesome. Even on my standard definition TV the graphics are awesome. |
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| Darth Samuel |
I didn't have enough time with the old dashboard before it was all like "MAndatory update, do you wish to proceed" or something. I pointed to yes cause I thought "They probably released some update after this console was made, so it's cool." Boom, NXE. I liked it for a while. Party chat is great.
A bunch of ads that greet me when I sign in, however, is not. |
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| Lord Vexen |
God of War 3 may very well make me buy a PS3 because 1 and 2 were amazing. I hope to God Microsoft buys the rights though...but if it doesn't, I'll wait a year, then buy the system and game. | ||||||
| Scion |
Sam= uninformed.
GOW3 (God help it comes out this year) looks utterly fantastic, the first GOW game I will buy (I merely rented the other 2). The $200 360 is a ripoff and anyone who buys it is a little off. It's got the same size HDD as the Wii. Can't even play some games online (Burnout is a popular example). The way I see it, $350 for a 360 and a year of Xbox Live w/o a game. Now I have to be convinced to get more than Ninja Gaiden 2, Lost Odyssey, Alan Wa-, oh wait, that's on PC (cheaper too).
It sucks owning a PS3 though, I don't have nearly enough games to play. I mean, if it wasn't for GOW, I'd only have Killzone 2, LBP, InFamous, Demon's Souls, White Knight Chronicles, Heavy Rain, MGO, Resistance 2, Uncharted 2, and Valkyria Chronicles. Looks like all I'll be doing is staring at the TV wishing I had something to play on my PS3 after I'm finished with those. And Digital Distribution will become standard when HD downloads can be done near instantaneously. When I bu something, I usually go home and play/watch/listen to whatever I've bought, not wait for it to download. |
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| Scion |
Sorry for double post, but Sony owns the right to GOW. That's kind of like Halo on the PS3. |
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| Darth Samuel |
Considering how fast technology is progressing, that's around say, 5 years. |
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| Scion |
Considering economic climate and how people can barely keep up with tech as it is, 5 years is accurate for hardcore techies, not everyday people. |
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| Darth Samuel |
And its still a long ways off before Blu-ray can overtake DVD to have 50% of the share, much less a huge majority. In like, 10 years it's projected Blu-ray will have 50% and DVD will have 45% - 50%. And in 10 years, technology should progress fast enough that hd video downloading renders blu-ray obsolete. Americans are lazy. We'd rather not go up and change a disc if a one click button can do it for us. |
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| Lord Vexen |
People said similar things about Final Fantasy. |
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| Armia Delvron |
... That's C. And again, I'd expect 8 years minimum for that to be feasible due to the large numbers of people in the United States without broadband internet connections (or internet connections period (25%+)). The other issue being: most people like to be able to watch their stuff - even if their internet connection is down or being slowed down for whatever reason. Streaming is still mostly in the realm of "that's neat" - not "that could replace my physical media player" |
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| Talen D'aar |
Yes, they might have sold out and gave you wankers FF13, but we get 13 and 13 Versus. So suck on that Microsoft. I also extremely doubt they'll sell the rights to GOW III. Sony probably sat down and said, we're going to have to give Microsoft either FF13 or GOW III, which will it be? And since the GOW games have a huge following, the game looks spectacular, and it'll probably out-sell FF13 when they come out, they decided to go with FF13. If that's the case, then I'm fine with it. Oh, and Scion's my new best friend for backing me up in the 360(sucks)vs. PS3(awesome) discussion. Sometimes my brain gets clouded with nerd rage during these discussions and I'm glad he has the clear-mindedness to make the best arguments. |
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| Crozeus |
Yes, nerd-rage leads to ignorance. | ||||||
| Journey |
GOW III will outsell FFXIII?
Japan still exists... right? |
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| Armia Delvron |
Sony did no such thing. Sony is the publisher of God of War. Final Fantasy is published by Squaresoft (er, sorry - Square Enix. I'm still not used to that). Square decided that Xbox sales were worth more than being a PS3 exclusive. That's also the reason why Final Fantasy games are being made for the Wii and Nintendo DS - Square's a third party. Comparing the latest God of War and FF games, your second assertion seems doubtful as well. Final Fantasy XII sold 1.76 million copies its first week in Japan, and then 1.5 million its first week in North America. God of War II sold 800,000 copies within its first two weeks (and had no Japanese release). So even without Japan, FF outperformed GOW2. That's not to say God of War's sales aren't respectable (it had twice the sales of every other game during its release month), but it'd be hard pressed to outdo the worldwide juggernaut of the Final Fantasy franchise - there's a reason there's over a dozen of them
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| Crozeus |
Nah, they built too many skyscrapers and sank. |
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| Journey |
Dang, I knew I was missing something...
Either way, FFXIII will still outsell GOWIII, that is unless of course that FFXIII was being developed in Japan... Which means... No more FF!! JAPANNNN!!! |
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| Talen D'aar |
@ Crozeus: I said nerd rage clouds my mind. There's a difference between that and ignorance.
@ Journey: I meant U.S. sales exclusively. I don't care about Japan in sales. @ Amria: That whole thing was a joke. I know they didn't sit down and decide what game to give Microsoft, I'm not stupid. And I'm not comparing the last GoW game to the last Final Fantasy. I don't care what they sold before, I'm telling you what I think it's going to be, doubtful or not. Yes, I know there's a reason there's over a dozen of them. I have a brain, no need to be condescending. |
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| Crozeus |
I know there's a difference... otherwise I would have said nerd rage = ignorance
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| Scion |
To Sam:
Soon, Blu-ray will hit DVD prices. THere are also many upsides to physical copies of Blu-Rays, like having a physial and digital copy (Many movies now do this, Forgetting Sarah Marshall is one I can think of, the DVD is also included with it). Also, physically copies can be transferred. If you buy a digital movie, you can't bring it to a friend's house. People aren't ready to give up physical copies yet. Plus, PS3 games have a 50GB limit. I am positive games couldn't be that big if only Digital DL were allowed, Microsoft already has a 150 MB restriction on XBLA games. |
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| Lord Invictus |
Halo 3 and Gears of War are the ONLY games on the 360 that look good.
Halo 3 is kind of... well, the online is good, but at times generic. Gears of War looks great, never played it, and I've heard great things about it. However, I've heard the storyline is meh and it has pointless gore. Turok (I believe a PS3 only game) is very similar to Halo. The storyline is extremely unique as well, and I love dual wielding pistols. R2 and R1 are such great games, they act as counterparts to all 360 FPS'. MAG will be THE PS3 game, and they'll use Dedicated servers (no lag!). R1+R2= great story, graphics are above average (perhaps not the best of the PS3 at times, but definitely better than... well, Halo 3 is better than R1 in graphics, but not R2), multiplayer is that best I've ever played, the weapons are extremely unique (a rocket-launcher that shoots shruikens that drill through walls into players and do damage over time... who thinks of this awesome stuff?), and an... odd ending. Lair, contrary to popular belief, is a great game, if a little confusing with the controls. Storyline is FANTASTIC, and it has the best graphics out of any game I've EVER seen. There are some other games I've played that are great for the PS3 (none that can come off the top of my head). The only other one is Motorstorm, which is, by the opinion of many friends (even those who own 360's) the best racing game EVER. I agree. Though I don't like Racing games much, I admit that this game is fun to play (too bad there isn't a non-online multiplayer). |
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| Scion |
Turok is not PS3 exclusive. | ||||||
| Journey |
The ironing is delicious... So you aren't ignorant, but still proceed to say that you don't care about Japan in sales? You know, in that you are ignoring them. Hmmm... Interesting logic. Considering the fact that there are a hell of a lot more than just people from the US on here... Yup, I would say you are reasonably ignorant. |
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| Armia Delvron |
Condescending would be: "Ha! Yeah right. What are you thinking? Final Fantasy has been around for over 20 years and all of them - at least the ones on Sony consoles - have been basically the top selling games of their year. That's why Final Fantasy VII was rereleased like... 5 times. "Greatest Hits" "Platinum Collection" - what have you. God of War is just a hack in slash game without a sizeable international audience. Your assertion is just silly!" I, instead, thought your statement was unreasonable - bothered to look up figures to make sure I was correct - and then posted my findings. No condescension - at least none deliberate. |
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| Darth Splinter |
I would only get a PS3 for:
Metal Gear Solid 4 Resistance 2 Killzone 2 |
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| Lord Invictus |
Meh, pretty true. Add Lair and Resistance One (the first is still going strong. Both have great multiplayer communities). I can understand not wanting Lair though: it has a highly opinionated reputation, unlike Resistance which is generally regarded as "great!" I would only get the 360 for Halo 3 and Gears of War, but even those are "meh" games (well, at least, when I played Halo 3 it was). |
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| Darth Splinter |
Gears or War = Hate it.
Halo 3 = I need to play it in intervals. There aren't really any 360 or PS3 exclusive games I'm interested in. CoD 4 > World at War |
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| Darth Samuel |
You need to get xbox live. |
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| Lord Invictus |
True 'dat. World at War= great campaign, but... ugh, hated the Pacific Theatre (though I must admit, I did love banzai charging a Japanese suicidal soldier. They run up to you ready to stab you, and then you kill them via a bayonet and their faces are all like "wtf, haxxorz". I liked Banzai charges even more than flamethrowers: banzai charges actually require skill, and it looks awesome when you jump before you stab, then scream "THIS IS SPARTA!"). CoD4= great campaign, online was AMAZING (dogs vs. helicopter, we know who wins there), and new weapons! |
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| Scion |
Gears of War was the first game that made me look at the 360 and go eh, it's alright. Mass Effect is the only other game on the 360 that did that. | ||||||
| Darth Samuel |
You've obviously never played Kung Fu Panda.
Let me tell you...
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| shadowball2021 |
LOL Sam...just LOL
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| Journey |
And neither did anyone else... |
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| Darth Samuel |
It was a joke, Mr. Scottish dude. | ||||||
| Journey |
I know, you see, it was like a joke within a joke. Or something like that. 
Whatever it was, I knew you were joking. 
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| Darth Samuel |
I need to add you on Xbox Live. | ||||||
| Crozeus |
As do I. | ||||||