Adenn
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The death of Michael JacksonMichael Jackson (50 August 29, 1958 - June 25, 2009) years old, has been pronounced dead today at 3:15 Pacific Daylight Time. The cause was cardiac arrest.
May he rest in peace, the King of Pop. His songs were a hit, and I loved his albums. Shame he had to die.
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Sirak Sazen
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I agree. RIP
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Yodafueva me
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RIP, but as usual he'll be another person who is glorified more than he should be because he's now dead.
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Lord Vexen
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One of the only pieces of celebrity news I care about. RIP MJ
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Darth Splinter
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| Yodafueva wrote: | | RIP, but as usual he'll be another person who is glorified more than he should be because he's now dead. |
Exactly how I feel. I still will not forgive the disgusting acts he committed(sp?).
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Lord Vexen
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I would like to point out he was never found guilty of those things and I personally believe he didn't commit them.
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Journey
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| Yodafueva wrote: | | RIP, but as usual he'll be another person who is glorified more than he should be because he's now dead. |
He made the greatest album of all time and was possibly the biggest inspiration on today's music, and that was something that was recognized before he died. That's what people are remembering him for and I honestly don't see how that's him being "glorified" more than he should be.
Chris Moyles said it best (It's the only sensible thing he's ever said) when he said (I'm paraphrasing) "Michael Jackson is to this generation (his generation) what Elvis was to previous generations".
RIP (Rest in Plastic?) MJ.
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Yodafueva me
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| Journey wrote: | | Yodafueva wrote: | | RIP, but as usual he'll be another person who is glorified more than he should be because he's now dead. |
He made the greatest album of all time and was possibly the biggest inspiration on today's music, and that was something that was recognized before he died. That's what people are remembering him for and I honestly don't see how that's him being "glorified" more than he should be.
Chris Moyles said it best (It's the only sensible thing he's ever said) when he said (I'm paraphrasing) "Michael Jackson is to this generation (his generation) what Elvis was to previous generations".
RIP (Rest in Plastic?) MJ. |
I couldn't care less about that. I'm more worried about his alleged molestation of a fourteen (?) year old. Look at the man and tell me he wasn't a creep.
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Journey
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What he did was wrong (inviting children to sleep with him) but I believe that there was no molestation involved and, evidently, so do the courts. The man was a child, who had his actual childhood taken away by a abusive and pushy father and he subsequently acted like a child when he grew up.
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Yodafueva me
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| Journey wrote: | | What he did was wrong (inviting children to sleep with him) but I believe that there was no molestation involved and, evidently, so do the courts. The man was a child, who had his actual childhood taken away by a abusive and pushy father and he subsequently acted like a child when he grew up. |
There are plenty of criminals out there who've got some type of justification for their crimes. Just because Jackson is the king of pop, doesn't mean is excuse is anymore viable than any other joe out there who molests kids. Even if (and I find this doubtful) Jackson didn't molest these kids, sleeping with them is sickening.
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Sirak Sazen
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The man's dead. No need to debate.
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Aldar Natadare
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| Lord Vexen wrote: | | I would like to point out he was never found guilty of those things and I personally believe he didn't commit them. |
Seconded.
And I think Jackson was much more cross-generational than Elvis.
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Xander Vos
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| Yodafueva wrote: | | Journey wrote: | | What he did was wrong (inviting children to sleep with him) but I believe that there was no molestation involved and, evidently, so do the courts. The man was a child, who had his actual childhood taken away by a abusive and pushy father and he subsequently acted like a child when he grew up. |
There are plenty of criminals out there who've got some type of justification for their crimes. Just because Jackson is the king of pop, doesn't mean is excuse is anymore viable than any other joe out there who molests kids. Even if (and I find this doubtful) Jackson didn't molest these kids, sleeping with them is sickening. |
Since when was sharing the bed with someone sickening?  I've shared a bed with my sister many times before, is that sickening?
I see MJ as a mixture of black, white, man, woman, adult and child, representing everything in all of us. He was an incredible singer, who was also incredibly eccentric. There seems inherent in humans a desire to hate what is unknown to us, or strange, and MJ was certainly strange. To say these sorts of things, especially after his death, are uneccessarily harsh.
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Darth Splinter
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| Journey wrote: | | ...I believe that there was no molestation involved and, evidently, so do the courts. |
Yeah, and the courts thought O.J. Simpson was innocent. Give me a break. 
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Lord Vexen
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| Korus Zhett wrote: | | To say these sorts of things, especially after his death, are uneccessarily harsh. |
If you think this is bad you should see things on some other sites about MJ. People are mourning that idiot Billy Mays over him.
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Sirak Sazen
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Insulting Billy Mays will result in instant death via Oxy-Clean consumption.
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Lord Vexen
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You can insult MJ, I can insult that fat, annoying Billy Mays.
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Yodafueva me
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| Korus Zhett wrote: | | Yodafueva wrote: | | Journey wrote: | | What he did was wrong (inviting children to sleep with him) but I believe that there was no molestation involved and, evidently, so do the courts. The man was a child, who had his actual childhood taken away by a abusive and pushy father and he subsequently acted like a child when he grew up. |
There are plenty of criminals out there who've got some type of justification for their crimes. Just because Jackson is the king of pop, doesn't mean is excuse is anymore viable than any other joe out there who molests kids. Even if (and I find this doubtful) Jackson didn't molest these kids, sleeping with them is sickening. |
Since when was sharing the bed with someone sickening? I've shared a bed with my sister many times before, is that sickening?
I see MJ as a mixture of black, white, man, woman, adult and child, representing everything in all of us. He was an incredible singer, who was also incredibly eccentric. There seems inherent in humans a desire to hate what is unknown to us, or strange, and MJ was certainly strange. To say these sorts of things, especially after his death, are uneccessarily harsh. |
You're actually justifying this?
It is a little weird, yes, but it doesn't compare to sharing a bed with somebody who is significantly under-aged.
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Journey
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| Darth Splinter wrote: | | Journey wrote: | | ...I believe that there was no molestation involved and, evidently, so do the courts. |
Yeah, and the courts thought O.J. Simpson was innocent. Give me a break. |
There are so many differences in those 2 cases it's not even funny.
You're more than welcome to your break.
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Darth Splinter
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| Lord Vexen wrote: | | You can insult MJ, I can insult that fat, annoying Billy Mays. |
Somebody needs some Mighty Putty between their lips! 
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Lord Vexen
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| Darth Splinter wrote: | | Lord Vexen wrote: | | You can insult MJ, I can insult that fat, annoying Billy Mays. |
Somebody needs some Mighty Putty between their lips! |
Why are you talking about yourself like that?
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Adenn
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Oh damn, I better stop sharing my bed with my brother and mother, or my mother would have people on her case for sleeping in the same bed as us.
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Lord Invictus
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| Journey wrote: | | Yodafueva wrote: | | RIP, but as usual he'll be another person who is glorified more than he should be because he's now dead. |
He made the greatest album of all time and was possibly the biggest inspiration on today's music, and that was something that was recognized before he died. That's what people are remembering him for and I honestly don't see how that's him being "glorified" more than he should be.
Chris Moyles said it best (It's the only sensible thing he's ever said) when he said (I'm paraphrasing) "Michael Jackson is to this generation (his generation) what Elvis was to previous generations".
RIP (Rest in Plastic?) MJ. |
I'm sorry, I have to: lol@RIP (Rest in Plastic)
I personally didn't like his music, though I recognize its significance. A strange man, but his death is unfortunate, nonetheless.
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Sirak Sazen
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| Adenn wrote: | | Oh damn, I better stop sharing my bed with my brother and mother, or my mother would have people on her case for sleeping in the same bed as us. |
Does your mother and brother have an alarm that rings in their room when somebody walks down the hallway?
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Lord Vexen
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| Sirak Sazen wrote: | | Adenn wrote: | | Oh damn, I better stop sharing my bed with my brother and mother, or my mother would have people on her case for sleeping in the same bed as us. |
Does your mother and brother have an alarm that rings in their room when somebody walks down the hallway? |
My parents do lol
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Darth Splinter
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I love how my reply to Vexen was deleted because a certain someone can't taste their own faliure.
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Io Lee
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I'm glad that I live in a place where treating his death like any other is normal, but when I get on the internet, it's like we're shunned.
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Adenn
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| Sirak Sazen wrote: | | Adenn wrote: | | Oh damn, I better stop sharing my bed with my brother and mother, or my mother would have people on her case for sleeping in the same bed as us. |
Does your mother and brother have an alarm that rings in their room when somebody walks down the hallway? |
Nope.
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Sirak Sazen
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Esteemed Mr. Jackson did.
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Lord Vexen
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Once again, nothing is wrong with that...
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Xander Vos
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| Yodafueva wrote: | | Korus Zhett wrote: | | Yodafueva wrote: | | Journey wrote: | | What he did was wrong (inviting children to sleep with him) but I believe that there was no molestation involved and, evidently, so do the courts. The man was a child, who had his actual childhood taken away by a abusive and pushy father and he subsequently acted like a child when he grew up. |
There are plenty of criminals out there who've got some type of justification for their crimes. Just because Jackson is the king of pop, doesn't mean is excuse is anymore viable than any other joe out there who molests kids. Even if (and I find this doubtful) Jackson didn't molest these kids, sleeping with them is sickening. |
Since when was sharing the bed with someone sickening? I've shared a bed with my sister many times before, is that sickening?
I see MJ as a mixture of black, white, man, woman, adult and child, representing everything in all of us. He was an incredible singer, who was also incredibly eccentric. There seems inherent in humans a desire to hate what is unknown to us, or strange, and MJ was certainly strange. To say these sorts of things, especially after his death, are uneccessarily harsh. |
You're actually justifying this?
It is a little weird, yes, but it doesn't compare to sharing a bed with somebody who is significantly under-aged. |
Sharing a bed with someone is absolutely harmless. Whenever my family would go away on holidays and we'd book a room, there'd more than likely be two double beds, meaning my sister and I would share. Of course this has become more and more sparse as we get older - as it should - but if a situation ever arises where, for instance, we were at our cousins a few months ago and they had a guest room with one double bed, we shrugged our shoulders and put up a wall of pillows. 
My point being, even if we assume the allegations of sharing a bed are correct, Wacko Jacko may, actually have been merely sharing a bed.
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Sirak Sazen
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There's a difference between you sharing a bed with your sister and a 40 year old man sharing a bed with kids. There are no allegations. He openly stated he shared a bed with children in his documentary.
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Adenn
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I used to share a bed with my dad all the time when I was younger, and he was 40+ years old.
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Sirak Sazen
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My mistake. Sharing a bed with 40 year old kids that are of no relation to him.
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Adenn
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40 year old kids?
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Sirak Sazen
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Frak. I'm done.
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Lord Invictus
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Sirak, if you hadn't screwed up the wording so much, I'd be inclined to agree
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TheDoctor
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I have a question.
And it's the same thing with the Abstinince debate.
Who gives a s**t whither or not MJ molested people?
Elvis had underage sex, hell, Frank Sinatra had Mob connections, probably put out a hit on someone, yet no one seems to rant about the evil, twisted mind of Elvis Prestly, nor the Silver Tongued, Golden voiced mobster Frank Sinatra. So at the sake of sounding like Chris Crocker, Leave MJ alone.
He wrote [Frakin'] Thriller and [Frakin'] Smooth Criminal, so damn, he was certainly to be considered a genius, if not a strange one. Anyway, chances are, I sounded a bit to defensive, but you get my point.
Anyway, I shed a tear over MJ, be it a slight one, as I do not worship him as all the crazed fans that are still in their basements sobbing hysterically.
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Sirak Sazen
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So because Elvis had underaged sex (along with 2/3 of Americans) and Frank Sinatra had alledged mob ties, that puts them at the same level as a man who sexually violated children?
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Adenn
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Nobody can prove he sexually violated children, except for the children themselves. Have they said anything?
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Xander Vos
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| Adenn wrote: | | Nobody can prove he sexually violated children, except for the children themselves. Have they said anything? |
Actually they did, at the time one boy was asked to describe spots on MJ's penis, and it was confirmed that it was accurate, but when MJ settled and paid him a sum of money, the case went away.
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Adenn
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| Korus Zhett wrote: | | Adenn wrote: | | Nobody can prove he sexually violated children, except for the children themselves. Have they said anything? |
Actually they did, at the time one boy was asked to describe spots on MJ's penis, and it was confirmed that it was accurate, but when MJ settled and paid him a sum of money, the case went away. |
Hm, I'd like to see/read that.
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Dakoth
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| Korus Zhett wrote: | | Adenn wrote: | | Nobody can prove he sexually violated children, except for the children themselves. Have they said anything? |
Actually they did, at the time one boy was asked to describe spots on MJ's penis, and it was confirmed that it was accurate, but when MJ settled and paid him a sum of money, the case went away. |
That pretty much settles it for me. Thats just.. well.. yeah pretty damning
Also, I think you just got pwnd Adenn.
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Adenn
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| Dakoth wrote: | | Korus Zhett wrote: | | Adenn wrote: | | Nobody can prove he sexually violated children, except for the children themselves. Have they said anything? |
Actually they did, at the time one boy was asked to describe spots on MJ's penis, and it was confirmed that it was accurate, but when MJ settled and paid him a sum of money, the case went away. |
That pretty much settles it for me. Thats just.. well.. yeah pretty damning
Also, I think you just got pwnd Adenn. |
Way to tell me. 
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Sirak Sazen
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| Adenn wrote: | | Korus Zhett wrote: | | Adenn wrote: | | Nobody can prove he sexually violated children, except for the children themselves. Have they said anything? |
Actually they did, at the time one boy was asked to describe spots on MJ's penis, and it was confirmed that it was accurate, but when MJ settled and paid him a sum of money, the case went away. |
Hm, I'd like to see/read that. |
Like to see what? 
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Io Lee
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Dun Dun Dun.
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Dakoth
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Hm... Yeah I wonder who cross referenced that.
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