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Armia Delvron

The Clone Wars: The Ryloth Trilogy Discussion

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It seems they've decided to bookend Clone Wars Season 1 with another trilogy of episodes. The Malevolence Trilogy (Episodes 2-4) have largely remained my favorite episodes of the series and this trilogy looks to potentially be just as good or better.

The Ryloth Trilogy: Official Trailer

They used the Lucasfilm logo instead of Lucas Animation: They bothered to make a trailer for it: Therefore I'd say they must be rather proud of it. I'm fairly sure it'll also be the first time we've seen Ryloth in motion.

Following the trilogy there will be another one shot episode to close the season (similarly to how the Yoda episode opened the season). Season 2 will start up this Fall.

Also: Did everyone catch the episode 2 weeks ago? It was a direct prequel to the Clone Wars movie (and its a shame the movie itself wasn't as good as this episode). It's definitely worth seeing I'd say. If you manage to get your hands on a copy.

It effectively extends the length of the Clone Wars movie by 22 minutes and explains why the opening battle seemed so one-sided.
Xander Vos

Delvron we already have a thread for this, but since you're new I'll let you off. Wink

The Clone Wars does look like its coming to an excellent close, and there's a bunch of episodes for me to catch up on, so I look forward to doing that at some point in the near future.

I must admit that does look tantalisingly spectacular, up until the point the droid says "Oh no! Run for it!" Either make the series series and dark and do it well, or don't bother IMO.
Lord Embeion

I've missed the past 3-4weelks of Clone Wars :'(

Although I will have to put Halo down and watch this one. I am interested to see how they drew Ryloth.. another deserty brown world.
Sirak Sazen

I missed the last few weeks as well. The Blue Shadow virus (?) that I've been hearing a lot about seems eerily similar to a plot line that I devised a while back. Cheaters...
Xander Vos

It's why Rive's been gone. He's been rifling through pages from this forum for good ideas for storylines then selling them to Lucas.  Evil or Very Mad
Armia Delvron

Korus Zhett wrote:
I must admit that does look tantalisingly spectacular, up until the point the droid says "Oh no! Run for it!" Either make the series series and dark and do it well, or don't bother IMO.


I'd agree if this looked out of proportion with the amount of "silliness" in the actual films.

The originals had C-3PO getting blasted apart and teddy bears.
The prequels had battle droids and Jar Jar Binks (and a bit of 3PO).

So, all in all, it seems like rather standard Star Wars style to me.

I'd also contest that it's hard to make things "dark" when you know that every character needs to survive - since they're alive in Episode III. Except for Anakin's Padawan and some of the clones. Mace Windu's not going to bite the dust Razz

They could do more stories with completely new characters and therefore have a more real element of "danger" - but then it might be harder to draw younger aged viewers to watch, "Where's Anakin and Obi-Wan?!"
Xander Vos

Simple.

Five episodes start of Season 2. Introduce a new Padawan and Knight. Make them likeable but not overly so. Then have them get seperated from Obi and Anakin for most of the Season and explore and develop them as characters.

They don't need to actually die, but the tension is far greater with new characters.
Armia Delvron

Something similar might be happening next season, we'll see.

Quote:
"We're trying to push the envelope even further in the second season," said George Lucas. "In the features, I focused on telling the story of the Skywalker family. With The Clone Wars I'm exploring far beyond that and we barely scratched the surface in the first season. It's exciting to be able to take people to all these new places in the Star Wars galaxy."

Seems to indicate we'll be getting less Skywalker-focused episodes. Although that could just mean more Mace Windu/Kit Fisto/Aalya Secura episodes - not actual new characters.
Xander Vos

Hopefully they'll be smart and start having background Jedi who we've never met, who can just chime in at battles, and THEN later start focussing on them more. That way it's not like with the Clones where its like, "LOOK, NEW CHARACTERS". Subtly is far better.

Ratings look promising though, this could go for a while.
Talen D'aar

This trailer just proves my theory that Star Wars would do extremely well if it had a hard rock/'n roll score. Exciting stuff either way.

I've missed the past few episodes, but I might actually sit down and watch these.
Darth Samuel

Talen D'aar wrote:
This trailer just proves my theory that Star Wars would do extremely well if it had a hard rock/'n roll score. Exciting stuff either way.


Do you know what box office gross is? Cause the 6 star wars film all grossed a lot without rock. It isn't needed in star wars. It can be cool, But I'd take John Williams over ANY rock musician when it comes to star wars.
Talen D'aar

I didn't say John William's score was bad. I love the Star Wars music, I'm just saying it's nice to see a little variety every once in a while.
Sirak Sazen

We all have to face the fact that John Williams is old. I just hope that when he dies, the basic structure of the Star Wars music won't collapse.
Ga'nen

I like the style of music that is played in the star wars movies, it tends to set the feeling of the scene and you can feel it.
Armia Delvron

Quick note: The Trilogy starts next week. Not tonight. Tonight they're just reairing the first episode of the series "Ambush" (the one with Yoda). It's not a particularly good episode - especially in regards to the later episodes, but it does have one good moment with an Empire Strikes Backish Yoda scene in the middle of the episode.

Sirak Sazen wrote:
We all have to face the fact that John Williams is old. I just hope that when he dies, the basic structure of the Star Wars music won't collapse.


Unlikely. It used to be an issue that most Expanded Universe products - even the high budget ones - would restrict themselves to using Williams music or lightly remixed Williams (even my own favorite, Jedi Outcast).

However, in recent years, that's not been the case. Both Knights of the Old Republics and The Force Unleashed featured new music merely inspired by Williams.

The Clone Wars has a wider mix (as shown by the mentioned rockish music in the trailer for this trilogy and some near-techno music in a previous episode this season), but it's still mostly Williamsesque.
Talen D'aar

I, frankly, loved the first episode. I'm a huge fan of the "outnumbered/last stand" type of stories, and the fact that Yoda is in the forefront of the episode just add to the awesomeness for me.
Sirak Sazen

The next episode looks fairly intense. Fighting in forests, canyons, etc. Granted, it's all ideas that I've had before with Jedi Civil War (which nobody joined). They even managed to swipe "Ghost" company from Crusade (which nobody is posting in). I really do love this show and I hope that Season 2 can live up to everything I've seen thus far.
Rive Caedo

I finally got to catch the first episode tonight thanks to getting my computer back in working order. A good thing too since part two is tomorrow night Very Happy

It's a shame all the episodes can't live up to this level. I think they may have brought on a different team of animators for these episodes - or the ones they had just really kicked it up a few notches. You saw a LOT more playing with camera angles and lighting effects than the previous 20-odd episodes.

They even gave the Y-Wings the Original Trilogy laser blast sound. I don't think they had that back when they were first shown in the Malevolence Trilogy.

Also interesting that they decided to bring back the Flash Gordon-esque silver Nemodian communications screen that we haven't seen since 1999 (Episode I).

Hm... not much else to say. Solid episode. I'm glad they let the villain survive since he's basically the first capable villain they've had on the show (excepting Grievous perhaps).
Rive Caedo

*replies to self*

Caught the second episode in the trilogy. I think the first one was stronger, but this was still good fun.



Xander Vos

I actually really liked this episode. Minimum of droid humour (the droid cleaning the cell was about it) and maximum of actual humour (stuff that made me laugh/smile like the Clone awkwardly hugging the Twi'lek girl after promising to help her).

If the entire show was like this it'd be top notch IMO.
Sirak Sazen

Poop, I missed it. Anybody have a link?
Rive Caedo

Korus Zhett wrote:
I actually really liked this episode. Minimum of droid humour (the droid cleaning the cell was about it) and maximum of actual humour (stuff that made me laugh/smile like the Clone awkwardly hugging the Twi'lek girl after promising to help her).


Indeed, I actually laughed pretty hard at the... (paraphrased)

Obi-Wan: "Cody, I want to send your best men on ahead to scout."
Cody: "Yes sir! Waxer. Boil. Move out!"
(slight pause)
Waxer: "... I guess we're the best."

I also liked that last line, which I'm sure was very deliberate - the "We'll be back, I promise."
... In about a year. To enslave your entire planet.
Xander Vos

Yeah I really liked that bit too. Very Happy

I assumed it meant they were off to free the rest of the world, but I'm sure that works as well. Wink

Has anyone actually managed to figure out when the Clone Wars episodes are meant to be set? I'd be interested in finding definitive dates of them and seeing how much EU they actually destroy.

I've warmed to this series though, I must say. When it first came out I hated it because the whole Anakin/Padawan thing, but I tend to ignore that now.
Rive Caedo

I'm not sure if there's a definitive date. But we know:

It's after Anakin is knighted.
It's after they introduce the Venator-class star destroyer.
It's before they switch to the second-generation Clone Trooper armor.

Supposedly they're going to show the switch to second-generation armor later on.
Darth Splinter

I really liked this episode.

My favorite quote:

(Waxer or Boil after seeing the other with the kid): Oh great, You made a friend. Mission Accomplished!

It made me smirk, as well as the one Rive mentioned about the 'best men'.
Rive Caedo

Tomorrow's conclusion to the trilogy looks to have lots of purple lightsaber action - based on the original trailer.
Talen D'aar

Rive Caedo wrote:
Supposedly they're going to show the switch to second-generation armor later on.


Perhaps that's something they do in Season 2?

I liked the first episode. I thought the second was better though. I didn't get to finish the second for maybe...the last ten minutes, but the banter between Waxer and Boil seemed real to me.
Xander Vos

I'd assume it'd happen far later in the show (Season 4 or 5 of a 7 season show or something like that) if they're doing the show chronologically...

Alternatively show the next gen armour in the final episode of this season to show that it's essentially ROTS, and have the next season start with the old armour again after Geonosis with random Jedi.
Xander Vos

The episode felt really rushed to me, as in the fight was still going on in the last minute with things very quickly being wrapped up, however it did have a few good moments. The second part is still my favourite though.
Rive Caedo

I'm not sure about "too rushed" (although 1 and particularly 2 were more nicely paced). But my main issue with the episode is that the entire situation felt like Windu could have resolved it on his own - the freedom fighters seemed superfluous.

Anyway, two fun things in this episode you might have missed:
One that I did miss (for obvious reasons):
Quote:
Clone Commander Ponds has an Aurebesh phrase written on the back of his helmet that reads, "some guys have all the luck."


And one that I saw (but I might have missed if I wasn't watching the HD), that's probably the best Easter egg we've gotten in Clone Wars so far:

See it? Here it is on the HD version, cropped.

The Twi'Leks are loading the Ark of the Covenant onto a transport Very Happy
Xander Vos

I'm guessing that's an Indy reference? Wink
shadowball2021

Rive Caedo wrote:
I'm not sure about "too rushed" (although 1 and particularly 2 were more nicely paced). But my main issue with the episode is that the entire situation felt like Windu could have resolved it on his own - the freedom fighters seemed superfluous.

Anyway, two fun things in this episode you might have missed:
One that I did miss (for obvious reasons):
Quote:
Clone Commander Ponds has an Aurebesh phrase written on the back of his helmet that reads, "some guys have all the luck."


And one that I saw (but I might have missed if I wasn't watching the HD), that's probably the best Easter egg we've gotten in Clone Wars so far:

See it? Here it is on the HD version, cropped.

The Twi'Leks are loading the Ark of the Covenant onto a transport Very Happy


1) Agreed, it was a good ep and it was nice to finally see Mace in action and 2) awesome find Rive; I totally missed that/didn't notice it when I was watching.
Lord Vexen

Always wondered were that thing disappeared off to.
Talen D'aar

Seems like the Ark was transported to a long time ago....in a galaxy far, far away.

Man....the U.S. government's gonna be pisssed. XD

Oh, and I don't have any comments on the episode...I missed it. :_(

I'll probably be able to watch it in between my Naruto Shippuden sessions.

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