The Clone Wars: Episodes 1 and 2 Discussion

Rive Caedo · The Clone Wars: Episodes 1 and 2 Discussion

I'm not sure if they'll be doing them every week or if it's a one time thing for the premiere, but there's a pair of online comics that take place immediately before each of the two episodes - providing some good background context. [Link]

If you missed the episodes, there's some quick 2 minute recaps available on: http://theclonewars.cartoonnetwork.com/

Since Rising Malevolence is the start of a plot arc lasting multiple episodes, I recommend seeing the full episode if you can find a way to do that. Ambush appears to be much more self-contained (although the clones in it may be ongoing characters), but it's still worth seeing.

Spoiler tags are NOT required for this thread. It's assumed you've seen the episodes.

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Yes! I said earlier in the thread that I'd hope they do the Starship Troopers narrator style opening they did in the movie for every episode in lieu of an opening crawl and they DID. Bwahaha! I love it.

I'm still not sure if that's actually Christopher Lee doing Dooku. But since he's close enough that I can't tell (unlike the guy that did him in the Clone Wars 2D series), he's good enough even if he's not the genuine article.

They're having a loose moral for every episode it seems - but they're not jamming it down your throat. Thank goodness. It's shown in place of the "a long time ago" and then they have a line or two reinforcing the concept at the end.

I still don't mind the battle droid jokes - although I thought the ones in the movie were better than the ones in these two episodes. Miles above Jar Jar in any case... who's supposedly showing up later in the series. Be afraid. Be very very afraid Laughing

Ambush: "Great leaders inspire greatness in others."

Yoda just completely outclassing Ventress was an awesome moment. And, despite looking fairly ridiculous, the Toydarian King that scared me actually acted rather... kingly.

I liked the little moment where Yoda's theme from Empire Strikes Back played as he was talking to the clones in the cave. Also the first indication that they'll be good on their word of getting to know individual clones and the overall clone perspective during the war.

Lastly, I liked the droid getting his head sliced off in the middle of talking to Ventress.

Rising Malevolence: "Belief is not a matter of choice, but of conviction."

I rather liked Plo drifting the Clone in space behind the droids using the Force. But I'm not sure if I liked the concept behind the scene. The escape pod didn't appear to have a multi-door airlock. How did they get outside without sucking that non-armored officer clone ("Wolf") outside? Oh well.

I still love Plo Koon's voice, look, and personality. I hope he's a frequent episode star.

Overall: Better than the movie and shows promise. I don't see how they could do a much better job while keeping it kid-friendly. I look forward to tuning in each week for some light hearted Jedi fun.

Xander Vos

Don't think they're showing them on my Cartoon Network, but I just watched them online.

Whilst I liked them, I don't like the fact that there doesn't seem to be a continuous storyline as of yet. Perhaps each "character" will have a storyline - e.g Yoda, Plo Koon, Anakin, Obi-Wan, Ashoka etc. But as of yet that doesn't seem a large part of it.

If these were anything to go by Greivous and Ventress seem to be highly recurring characters which I also don't like, I hope they become less common as it goes on.

I also reeeeally didn't like the droid humour used whilst hunting Yoda, REALLY didn't like it. It was slightly better in the Koon episode.

That out of the way, I did immensly enjoy them. The action was great, and the plots were both original and interesting. I really hope that this is sustained as it will make the series quite enjoyable. Makes me wonder what the movie was like. Wink

Rive Caedo · 1-9-77

Xander Vos

Haha!! Nice catch! I missed that.

Lord Vexen · 1-9-77

Tom

Star Wars was released May 1977

Lord Vexen

Thanks for the info...

Tom

No problem TK 421 Smile

lol

Xander Vos

Surprised there hasn't been any 1138's yet... Plenty of direct quoting of the movies like the cartoon show though.

Yodafueva me

Can't find a reason to watch this, really. The movie was garbage and the animation pretty poor. So, whoever hated the movie, tell me what you think of the show!

Rive Caedo

I've seen quite a few reviews from people who hated the movie. The general opinion is that both episodes were better than the movie (no huttlets, no Ziro the Hutt, not much Anakin and Ahsoka).

The animation was pretty bad for a movie (since across the aisle you have Pixar and Dreamworks), but it's really good for a TV series.

Still, you might consider picking and choosing which episodes you watch. As Xander said, the first episode has an abundance of the "droid humor" so you might consider skipping that (although it does have some cool Yoda lines - very Empire Strikes Backy). The second episode is much better though.

IGN's Ambush review.: 6.8 out of 10
IGN's Rising Malevolence review. 7.3 out of 10

I'd bump Malevolence up to a 7.6, but otherwise I feel the review are very fair from an adult perspective watching the show.

Lord Vexen

Darth Samuel

I loved them. The voice at the start that was on for 5 seconds that told of what was going on made me mad, but everything else was cool. Can't wait to watch it every friday. Very Happy

With 100 episodes being made regardless of ratings, and with 22 episodes in the first season, I can live with 4-5 straight seasons of it. Very Happy

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Talen D'aar

If you pay close attention to the title of the episode "Rookiees", there's two 'e's in the spelling which might be an allusion to the fact there are Wookiees in the episode. Or Rive just misspelled rookie and this entire speculation is nonsense. But the former seems more likely. XD

Rive Caedo

No Wookiee rookies, just a mistake on my part Razz

Talen receives a grammar police point.

Rive Caedo

*replies to self*

Koh-to-ya! Just a few hours until episode 3 and I'm still finding neat stuff for episodes 1 and 2!

In addition to previously mentioned short comics that take place before episodes. They're apparently also going to do some fun little in-universe "Holonet" radio shows occasionally - similar to how they did the Holonet news articles online between Episodes I and II.

Holonet News Broadcast #1: Takes place just prior to Episode 2.

If you listen to NPR, or watch PBS or BBC (or other country equivalents) you'll find it fairly amusing. It also has elements of World War II era broadcasts.