princessleia
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Official WHAT IF Duel ThreadIf Yoda and Darth Vader were to ever battle against each other
who do you think would win??? 
Yoda has my vote.
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Darth Samuel
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Didn't we have a bunch of threads like this in 2006/2007?
And Yoda. Darth Vader's suit lost him a lot of mobility.
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Lord Embeion
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Agreed
Vader lost over half his Force potential when he was lavafied. Even in one of the comics he says it
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Anakin
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| Darth Samuel wrote: | Didn't we have a bunch of threads like this in 2006/2007?
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Correct, but were so desperate for activity this will probably pass.
It depends on what age and era these two are fighting so there are many possibilites, kind of a "What if.." situation which is repetitive.
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Lord Invictus
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We should make a what if fighting thread for Star Wars and another for OTHER.
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princessleia
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well I just thought that this would be a fun topic to have on here....I didn't know that it was a thread already....humor me hahaa ....if it was in the era of "A New Hope"...lets say...and Yoda was forced back into civilization...even though that didn't obviously happen....
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Anakin
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Yeah, for the past 3 years we had a bunch of these versus threads but this one is fine.
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Darth Thilus
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Darth Vader would win if they had a costume contest. 
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Rive Caedo
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My bet's on Vader, but I'm a Vader Supremacist 
Trying to throw my bias aside for a moment... I think Vader would be able to at least escape from Yoda if the fight went badly. I'm not sure if the reverse would be true (escape help from Bail Organa isn't allowed). If you count running away as a draw rather than a loss, I don't think Yoda could win.
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Lord Embeion
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If Vader beat Obi-wan on Mustafar he woulda beat force and created Vadertology
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Anakin
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If Vader beat Obi-Wan then the prophecy wouldn't be fullfilled.
{Rimshot} Buh-Boom-Che!
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Xander Vos
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Ok, here's a what if:
Yoda and Obi-Wan know they must end the Sith, so Obi-Wan goes off to fight Palpatine and Yoda goes off to fight a full-strength Darth Vader on Mustafar.
Who would win each duel?
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Lord Invictus
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Palp would instantly kill Obi Wan.
Hard duel, with tons of corny lines, but Anakin dies and nearly kills Yoda, but Yoda survives.
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Xander Vos
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Really? I don't think you can block Force Choke, which was Anakin's specialty - though I don't think Padme would have been killed, because Anakin was jealous of Obi-Wan not Yoda?? - and Anakin could have used it on Yoda. Additionally I don't think Yoda would have been able to keep up with the fast pace of the duel in the lava, AND Yoda couldn't have used the 'higher ground advantage' as he's so short!
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Lord Invictus
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Yoda would just pick Anakin up with the force and throw him, or throw something at him....
Anakin vs. Garen Marek/Secret Apprentice.
Palp vs. Rahm Kota.
Palp and Garen IMO.
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Xander Vos
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I'll edit the title to include all WHAT IFs.
Yoda wouldn't be able to throw Anakin or throw anything at him, or if he could, Anakin would be able to throw/throw things at Yoda. Would kind of neutralise any advantage in that.
In a straight out lightsaber fight I think Anakin would win. Just because he's so much stronger and more athletic than Count Dooku, who was struggling against Yoda in that department.
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Lord Invictus
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I didn't say Count Dooku. I said Garen Marek...
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Xander Vos
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I know, I'm not responding to your suggestion, I was continuing the speculation on a Yoda-AnakinVader duel.
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Rive Caedo
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| Xander Vos wrote: | | Though I don't think Padme would have been killed, because Anakin was jealous of Obi-Wan not Yoda?? |
That's actually very interesting. Yoda may have successfully been able to convince Anakin to come back to the light. Anakin and Yoda could have then flown back and saved Obi-Wan as he stalled Palpatine.
Kota versus pretty much ANYONE ends with the other side being the victor. Kota was a good commander and good at hiding, but I don't think - from what we've seen of him - he ranks as anything above mediocre in terms of personal combat skill.
Kyle Katarn versus Galen Marek is something I'd like to see. Basically the light side overpowered force user versus the dark side overpowered force user
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Xander Vos
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Can't you make Marek a good guy like in KOTOR? I thought there was a light-side ending.
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Rive Caedo
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There is a light side ending, but you'll still be using force lightning and choke all the way to the end of the game. Kyle can exist without those powers.
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Darth Splinter
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I always wondered how the duel on the Invisible Hand would have went down if Anakin was knocked out cold and thrown aside and Kenobi took on Dooku. I know Palps would be pissed.
I say Dooku would have owned Kenobi just like in AOTC.
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Anakin
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Seems like Kenobi was always surpassed by Dooku every time they duel. Dooku in each fight takes Kenobi down in such a short time. Yet we see Obi-Wan surpassing Dooku's skill when he faces Anakin on Mustafar.
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Xander Vos
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I'm guessing its a rock-papers-scissors scenario, with Anakin's raw power defeating Dooku, Dooku's mastery of the Force and a certain lightsaber style defeating Kenobi, and Kenobi's knowledge of Anakin and mastery of a certain lightsaber style defeating Anakin.
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Darth Samuel
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Because Palpatine orchestrated it so that Obi would lose. Not the biggest amount, but it contributed to dooku's death. Plus Anakin, after falling, had just killed thousands of jedi. After that, someone's ego has to be huge. He probably overestimated himself(as evidenced by his jump that Obi told him not to do.)
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Rive Caedo
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Dooku also had overconfidence running against him. When you cut off somebody's arm - it tends to make you think you can beat them again.
That and remember in episode 21 of Clone Wars when Dooku slammed Anakin into that wall and only Ashoka saved his unconscious body from being a kabob on Dooku's lightsaber?*
*Note: May not have happened yet. What year is this?
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Darth Samuel
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LOLOL I like you Rive. Not Love, but like.
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Lord Embeion
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So uh Rive how much does Lucas pay you to write scripts?
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Anakin
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| Rive Caedo wrote: | Dooku also had overconfidence running against him. When you cut off somebody's arm - it tends to make you think you can beat them again.
That and remember in episode 21 of Clone Wars when Dooku slammed Anakin into that wall and only Ashoka saved his unconscious body from being a kabob on Dooku's lightsaber?*
*Note: May not have happened yet. What year is this? |
Yeah just come out with it. You work for Lucas.
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princessleia
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| Xander Vos wrote: | | Really? I don't think you can block Force Choke, which was Anakin's specialty - though I don't think Padme would have been killed, because Anakin was jealous of Obi-Wan not Yoda?? - and Anakin could have used it on Yoda. Additionally I don't think Yoda would have been able to keep up with the fast pace of the duel in the lava, AND Yoda couldn't have used the 'higher ground advantage' as he's so short! |
I believe that Yoda could manipulate things that were in his surroundings
like the lava to compensate for his short stature that is if that planet wasn't destroyed in between the two eras....It would still be an interesting
battle though...I think anyway..
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Darth Splinter
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| Darth Samuel wrote: | | LOLOL I like you Rive. Not Love, but like. |
*Scrubs refrence*What's wrong with a little guy love between two guys?*Scrubs refrence*
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Rive Caedo
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Wicket the Ewok versus that Jawa who shot R2D2. Go.
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Jaden Nightsaber
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I had to review this in my head a few times. I think the Jawa wins, only because his weapon is more ranged than Wicket's spear and stones.
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Anakin
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Definitely the Jawa.
Boba Fett versus Jango Fett
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Lord Embeion
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Can we give this a reason to be a sticky? if not I'm gonna take it down
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Sirak Sazen
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Boba Fett.
A baseball to the face or a baseball bat to the groin?
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Jiub
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I think that its purpose is to keep people from posting a new thread every time they think of a theoretical battle between two characters. I don't find these theoretical battles very interesting, but maybe it will keep some people from doing it.
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Crozeus
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Sirak seems to think it's the or game.
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Sirak Sazen
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I blame ADD.
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Lord Invictus
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| Sirak Sazen wrote: | Boba Fett.
A baseball to the face or a baseball bat to the groin? |
Groin. Face would, by far, hurt more and cause permanent damage, and I would suffer mental issues (as many of you can infer from most of my posts, I currently am an idiot, but not medically diagnosed). Groin can harm males and females, but this differentiates between people (surprisingly, despite its "comedic" popularization, it oftentimes is not a particularly deadly or painful assault. This, of course, is individualistic and differs).
Sauron or Voldemort?
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Sirak Sazen
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Sauron. The dude has a.... big eye.
Emperor Hirohito or Chancellor Hitler, who would win?
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Rive Caedo
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I'm going to give it to Hirohito - since he DID win. He got to live and see his nation restored to prosperity before he died. Didn't die until the late 80's.
Sean Connery (1962 - first time he starred as James Bond) versus Harrison Ford (1981 - first time he starred as Indiana Jones)
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Talen D'aar
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Sean Connery. When you go up against a Scottish accent, you always lose.
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Butler_Swan
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How about...
President Taft v.s. President Wilson?
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Lord Invictus
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| Rive Caedo wrote: | | I'm going to give it to Hirohito - since he DID win. He got to live and see his nation restored to prosperity before he died. Didn't die until the late 80's. |
That is rather debatable. Japan lives in a state of debt right now that is considered EXTREMELY high (this was a result of loans sent to save Japan after the War).
Germany, however, was economically saved by Hitler: even after the war, Germany eventually succeeded in becoming the European power AGAIN. Today, whilst perhaps not as industrially advanced as Japan, Germany is in a state of less debt than Japan.
Besides, if he was asking a militaristic "who'd win a war question" you cannot deny Nazi Germany would have crushed Japan. The Nazis had the largest army ever mustered, the means to support it and, in this hypothetical scenario, the Middle East, Africa, Western Europe, Russia, and the Americas (possibly) under their control. The Nazi Wehrmacht army numbered over 13 million: largest ever on earth.
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Lord Vexen
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The Wehrmacht didn't have soilders willing to kill themselves to take out enemy battleships. I think the japs woulda won simply because of how far they go to win. It took nukes to take them down.
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Rive Caedo
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| Lord Invictus wrote: | | Rive Caedo wrote: | | I'm going to give it to Hirohito - since he DID win. He got to live and see his nation restored to prosperity before he died. Didn't die until the late 80's. |
That is rather debatable. Japan lives in a state of debt right now that is considered EXTREMELY high (this was a result of loans sent to save Japan after the War). |
That doesn't change the status of the nation or the fact that Hirohito lived to see it restored from its war torn state - unlike Hitler.
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Crozeus
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Hmm, remember that the German strength lay in armoured advances. Without their tanks they would have a hard time island hopping. Navy and airforce would be fairly balanced. Germany would eventually win, but it would be long and costly.
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Sirak Sazen
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Germany- Europe was like a playground for the Wehrmacht's specialties.
Japan- Island hell
Depends on where the fighting is happening.
Hillary Clinton or Michelle Obama?
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Talen D'aar
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Michelle Obama. She'd probably just pull out a knife and cut Clinton.
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Crozeus
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Racist.
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Rive Caedo
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Yeah, that was a bit uh... yikes.
I'll still give to Obama - since she is, after all, over 15 years younger than Clinton.
Moving on before this turns into a "what the frak Talen?" tangent thread...
Stan Lee: Former President of Marvel Comics and creator of dozens of classic characters:
versus
Shigeru Miyamoto: General Manager of Nintendo and creator of dozens of classic characters:
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Talen D'aar
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Yeah, that was a little extreme, sorry. But I think people should be able to laugh at themselves. I didn't mean it with any malice or ill-will.
I have a Carlos Mencia type of sense of humor if you get what I mean.
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TheDoctor
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Carlos Mencia steals peoples souls, as well as their jokes...
Anyway, Stan 'The Man' Lee, simply because he seems stronger. Then again, he's old as dirt so...
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Darth Splinter
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| Talen D'aar wrote: | | I have a Carlos Mencia type of sense of humor if you get what I mean. |
So... you're a joke theiving douchebag?
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Dakoth
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Hm.. That gives me an idea!
Billy Mays
Weakness: Primetime
Resistance: Shamwow
Ability: Stain Immunity
Armor Save: 5+
Special Attack: Oxi-Glow?!?!
VS
Michael Jackson
Weakness: Nose shots
Resistance: Prosecution
Ability: Chameleon
Armor Save: 4+
Special Attack: Nuclear Moonwalk
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Journey
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Wouldn't Michael Jackson's nose be a strong point?
I mean I'm pretty sure if you kicked a guy in the leg who had a prosthetic then it wouldn't hurt him.
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Dakoth
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Its like the death star, once you knock it off it opens up a hole that if a torpedo is fired into, will spell the end of Michael.
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