sinky911
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New DomainWell, since there is no Suggestions board I'll post it here.
I think Rebels should get their own domain, you have 309 reg users, most MFF forums change to their own domain once they reach the 200/300 users mark.
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Rive Caedo
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The "Ideas" board is a synonym for "Suggestions"
Anyway, I don't disagree at all. I haven't really looked into it because I didn't feel like paying for it all myself, but by now perhaps some of our members are reaching the age they could assist with payment a bit... I'll look into it.
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Rive Caedo
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after a brief look, I can't see if myfreeforums itself offers a domain naming service. All I could find was their "Remove ads for 3 months/6 months/1 year" service.
A simple domain name that would redirect to here would cost $10 per year. A rather small sum that may be worth it.
Also, if anyone's interested, it would cost us about 82 dollars per year (40 British Pounds). A bit pricier, but it could be worth looking into if multiple people would chip in. Hm...
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Xander Vos
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I'm assuming having our own domain would mean a "www" address? What other advantages would it give us?
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Zsaber
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i can do it for free...i already have.
but if you do it my way you will have a small bar running along the top of the window.
www.thejediorder.tk
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sinky911
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I can get a subdomain which acts like a domain. I have one with full FTP access, we could also use TipDots.com so we change it to www.rebels.at.tp or something. That way you also can get email accounts.
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Xander Vos
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Is there a way to transfer all the posts, threads and forums from here to their?
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sinky911
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Yes, but someone needs to buy a database export, which is quite expensive.
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Rive Caedo
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| Quote: | | Yes, but someone needs to buy a database export, which is quite expensive. |
Indeed, that would cost us over $150.
| Quote: | | I'm assuming having our own domain would mean a "www" address? What other advantages would it give us? |
There are 3 advantages I can think of.
1. It would likely increase our presence on Google Searches (the way Google works partly ignores "sites within sites" (Geocities, blogs, etc.)
This would bring in new members.
2. Easier to type in/remember.
This COULD increase new members/make them return once they've joined.
If we went for an all out move... (which would cost far more)
3. We'd gain insurance that we would keep our forum if MyFreeForum ever shut down.
4. We would also gain far more space - we could host multiple templates for the forum, host avatars here, etc.
5. No ads - ever
6. Faster page loading
Disadvantages?
1. Cost - we'd need to pay $10 per year to keep the simple redirect Domain Name, and much more per year to move our database to a new server (in addition to the one time cost ($160ish to move the database).
2. Slight risk of something going wrong during the database transfer.
3. Possible loss of members not knowing where the new forum location is (easily avoidable).
4. Cost
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Scion
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So Cons=Cost
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Zsaber
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i can keep www.thejediorder.tk up for as long as need be till you want to do something else, i can also change it to be something else if you want. just tell me what you want to change it to.
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Rive Caedo
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I went ahead and registered http://www.theforceunited.tk/ also, in case we do end up renaming the forum someday.
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Xander Vos
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Well, also the problem of raising the money, because of untrusting parents.
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Lord Vexen
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Yeah, my parents would take away my laptop for life if I tried sending any money....
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Lord Lanik
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Same here...but I'd get banned from the internet
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Dakoth
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No ads ever?!
correct me if I'm wrong, but don't advertisers pay you to run thier ads? Methinks that sounds like a way to counteract that little 10$ a month problem.
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sinky911
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I have a domain, 600 GB bandwidth per month, 30 GB disk space.
I can host it on there if you want . I'll give the MAIN administrator the login details to my account if it is absolutely necessary.
But, somebody would have to pay for a new domain as I am running quite short of money *looks in wallet*.
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Rive Caedo
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| Quote: | No ads ever?!
correct me if I'm wrong, but don't advertisers pay you to run thier ads? Methinks that sounds like a way to counteract that little 10$ a month problem. |
True (and if we did that, I'd insist upon Google ads, since they don't use pop-ups or annoying banners), but we'd still need to raise the money in the first place - and placing ads on a website that the users helped pay for seems just - wrong.
| Quote: | I have a domain, 600 GB bandwidth per month, 30 GB disk space.
I can host it on there if you want . I'll give the MAIN administrator the login details to my account if it is absolutely necessary. |
Noted and appreciated. That would come at the cost of the $10 domain registration and the $160 database move. But would avoid the very pricey and ongoing domain server upkeep.
I'll keep it in mind. Our main admin (Abba) isn't around as often as some of our sub admins (Myself and Skywalker&Vader most notably) so it might be better for one of us to handle the maintenance if we pursued this route.
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sinky911
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Ok, sounds good.
If you need any info about the account be sure just to ask.
Also, quick question, when you access the admin panel on this forum how big does the panel sa the forum is? Kb, Mb?
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Grand Vizier Tarna
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Since I don't have an income yet, I'd be able to mail two single dollar bills to Rive every year. Pay a fifth of the cost seems fair. Jeez, everybody could mail in two dollars. That would hold us for a while.
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Rive Caedo
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| Quote: | | Also, quick question, when you access the admin panel on this forum how big does the panel sa the forum is? Kb, Mb? |
We clock in at about 120 Mb, currently.
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The Chosen One
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Getting $10 a year doesn't seem too steep, that's if it is indeed yearly costs. I donate ~$5 frequently to my clan to keep our server up and running, and that's monthly.
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Xander Vos
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| Darth Tarna wrote: | Since I don't have an income yet, I'd be able to mail two single dollar bills to Rive every year. Pay a fifth of the cost seems fair. Jeez, everybody could mail in two dollars. That would hold us for a while. |
I can't really. Currency issues and the fact that mailing the two dollars would cost more than the two dollars themselves.
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Lord Vexen
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And for me, I would be dead if my parents found out. Plus it is expensive
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sinky911
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Well, I can't donate anything. I am running the Pro host on my account, which is like $150 a year. So with that I am quite poor.
I don't mind giving an administrator access, I just need the OK.
Note: My hosting (account) ends on September the 12th so if you decide to move in close to that date, you might need to wait a couple more days before I can renew it.
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The Chosen One
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| Xander Vos wrote: | | Darth Tarna wrote: | Since I don't have an income yet, I'd be able to mail two single dollar bills to Rive every year. Pay a fifth of the cost seems fair. Jeez, everybody could mail in two dollars. That would hold us for a while. |
I can't really. Currency issues and the fact that mailing the two dollars would cost more than the two dollars themselves. |
I think it's all relative. We have Euro members who donate money to the server in our clan. I'm not entirely sure, but I think it automatically converts the cost. So 2 dollars of whatever the currency of someone donates, will be converted into how the payments are to be made.
At least that's how PayPal works.
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Rive Caedo
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| Quote: |
I think it's all relative. We have Euro members who donate money to the server in our clan. I'm not entirely sure, but I think it automatically converts the cost. So 2 dollars of whatever the currency of someone donates, will be converted into how the payments are to be made.
At least that's how PayPal works. |
Indeed it does, but they were talking about mailing money physically in a letter. Across international boundaries it would indeed cost more than $2 to send something to the USA. Within the USA it would cost 41 cents, which is a bit of a hefty fee to mail 2 dollars
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Dakoth
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| Rive Caedo wrote: | | Quote: | No ads ever?!
correct me if I'm wrong, but don't advertisers pay you to run thier ads? Methinks that sounds like a way to counteract that little 10$ a month problem. |
True (and if we did that, I'd insist upon Google ads, since they don't use pop-ups or annoying banners), but we'd still need to raise the money in the first place - and placing ads on a website that the users helped pay for seems just - wrong.
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Eh, honestly I don't even pay attention to the ads on this site, and it'd be a lot easier than raising 10$ a month.
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Scion
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| Dakoth wrote: | | Rive Caedo wrote: | | Quote: | No ads ever?!
correct me if I'm wrong, but don't advertisers pay you to run thier ads? Methinks that sounds like a way to counteract that little 10$ a month problem. |
True (and if we did that, I'd insist upon Google ads, since they don't use pop-ups or annoying banners), but we'd still need to raise the money in the first place - and placing ads on a website that the users helped pay for seems just - wrong.
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Eh, honestly I don't even pay attention to the ads on this site, and it'd be a lot easier than raising 10$ a month. |
I'll agree there, they don't slow load times down for me so I could care less.
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Rive Caedo
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| Quote: | | I'll agree there, they don't slow load times down for me so I could care less. |
I block the ads entirely via Firefox addons, so they don't even load for me
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Lord Vexen
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| Rive Caedo wrote: | | Quote: | | I'll agree there, they don't slow load times down for me so I could care less. |
I block the ads entirely via Firefox addons, so they don't even load for me  |
Same
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Dakoth
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So basically free money for us!
As long as SaV dosen't go and sign us up for ads from www.HawtOstichAction.com
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sinky911
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There are a number of things you can use. You can make a PayPal donation button.
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Xander Vos
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| Dakoth wrote: | So basically free money for us!
As long as SaV dosen't go and sign us up for ads from www.HawtOstichAction.com |
Ah, I wish there was a profit to be made.
Is there a profit to be made?
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Rive Caedo
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| Quote: | Ah, I wish there was a profit to be made.
Is there a profit to be made? |
I doubt it, the majority of our users are smart enough to not click on ads - I think.
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Xander Vos
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But they'd still have to pay us to put adds on here. Would the cost perhaps be more than the $10 a year that we have to pay?
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Dakoth
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I think they work on clickage = money, but if there was a profit, it should be given to someone to hold, a treasurer if you will. I vote me, I need some new stuff.
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Grand Vizier Tarna
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I'll click the ads if it gives us money.
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Lord Embeion
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| Darth Tarna wrote: | I'll click the ads if it gives us money.  |
the money would go towards to forum.. and the mods and admins =P Kinda like on yugiohrealms. They pay there mods 800smackers a month to mod there forum
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Lord Vexen
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| Lord Embeion wrote: | Kinda like on yugiohrealms. They pay there mods 800smackers a month to mod there forum  |
I'll take that....
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Rive Caedo
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| Quote: | | the money would go towards to forum.. and the mods and admins =P Kinda like on yugiohrealms. They pay there mods 800smackers a month to mod there forum Wink |
They have 119,570 members. We have 300ish.
Based on that we'd be able to pay our mods about 2.8 smackers per month
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Lord Vexen
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Hell, I'll take that too
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Lord Embeion
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| Lord Vexen wrote: | | Hell, I'll take that too |
we can be cheap and ramp it up to 5dolla?
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Xander Vos
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If we DID pay members, I'd say only the admins.
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The Chosen One
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Adminny Adminny, 10 dolla?
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Xander Vos
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He's baaaack.
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Lord Embeion
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| The Chosen One wrote: | | Adminny Adminny, 10 dolla? |
admin 50$?yarite Admin 2dolla
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Dakoth
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ok so we're only 119,200 members away from me making 800$. nice.
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The Chosen One
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| Dakoth wrote: | | ok so we're only 119,200 members away from me making 800$. nice. |
Not too bad.
We could always ask Embeion to do the German dance. That'll rake in members.
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Dakoth
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I'm in favor of that, sounds like a plan.
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Lord Embeion
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| The Chosen One wrote: | | Dakoth wrote: | | ok so we're only 119,200 members away from me making 800$. nice. |
Not too bad.
We could always ask Embeion to do the German dance. That'll rake in members. |
Look who's talking
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Darth Samuel
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I get 5 bucks a week, and my stepdad could do paypal sending for the stuff if I gave up my allowance. which could work. I'm also planning on selling stuff to make money.
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Darth Marix
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isn' it like $1 a month to rent a domian?
Here is the link to changing the domain name: Click Here
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Xander Vos
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I earn $20 a week, which is what, $16 US round about?
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Darth Samuel
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| Xander Vos wrote: | | I earn $20 a week, which is what, $16 US round about? |
probably around there. are you using metric or U.S. style numbers. j/k
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Xander Vos
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What do you mean?
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Darth Samuel
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I really don't know. It's late night here, so I'm spouting off weird things.
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sinky911
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Due to private reasons, I cannot offer hosting on my account. It was hacked and thats all I can say.
However, I have another free host but can pay for a domain with 100 GB+ bandwidth.
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Grand Vizier Tarna
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| Xander Vos wrote: | | I earn $20 a week, which is what, $16 US round about? |
The US Stock Market hasn't been very good lately, so it's very likely that your money is stronger then ours at the moment.
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Kisuk Kolar
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Money doesn't have to do with the metric system
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Rive Caedo
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Forumtroopers? Here?! We're in danger! I must tell the others! Oh no! I've been shot!
Zap zip zap, please keep religious discussion over here ---->
Move Along, Move Along.
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Darth Samuel
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what happened to the other forumtrooper pics? and I wanna be a forumtrooper.
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Rive Caedo
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| Quote: | | what happened to the other forumtrooper pics? and I wanna be a forumtrooper. |
Meh, they only come out in full force if I actually need to lock a topic or something, this topic has the potential to get back on track, so I just deleted a few posts (including one of my own that was off-topic!) and waved the blaster around
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Xander Vos
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| Lord Tarna wrote: | | Xander Vos wrote: | | I earn $20 a week, which is what, $16 US round about? |
The US Stock Market hasn't been very good lately, so it's very likely that your money is stronger then ours at the moment. |
Nope, its weaker. 1 AUD = 79.79 US cents.
(I don't know why this post of mine was deleted Rive, it was just explaining how much money I earn in relation to my contribution to the new domain)
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Anakin
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| Rive Caedo wrote: | | Quote: | | what happened to the other forumtrooper pics? and I wanna be a forumtrooper. |
Meh, they only come out in full force if I actually need to lock a topic or something, this topic has the potential to get back on track, so I just deleted a few posts (including one of my own that was off-topic!) and waved the blaster around  |
Aw good, the forumpolice are around lol.
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Rive Caedo
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| Quote: | Nope, its weaker. 1 AUD = 79.79 US cents.
(I don't know why this post of mine was deleted Rive, it was just explaining how much money I earn in relation to my contribution to the new domain) |
Yes, sorry. I mass-deleted about 20 posts and accidentally went 2 or 3 posts too far, since the money discussion was what initially caused it to go off-track.
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Xander Vos
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No problem.
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Anakin
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Rive is Big Brother, the Moderators, Thought Police.
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Xander Vos
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And we've always been at war with Eastasia, with Eurasia as our closest allies. Don't you forget it.
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