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| Rive Caedo |
James Bond 22: Quantum of SolaceOnly another month until this comes out... er... in the UK. Everyone else needs to wait an extra two weeks.The theme song was just put out. I'm not very fond of it. But, then again, I haven't been fond of most Bond themes (I actually really liked Casino Royale's though). Maybe I'll like it better once it's paired up with its film video sequence instead of this music video footage. |
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| Lord Invictus |
Re: James Bond 22: Quantum of Solace
It's a Bond themesong. It's crap. It's a Bond movie. It's crap. It's a Bourne move. It's the greatest thing on the whole planet. Bourne > Bond Deal wit' it. I despise James Bond. For one thing, it's so unrealistic. For another, he's a womanizer, a drunkard, and is so pathetic (cheeeeep liiines). Only thing he has on Bourne is he's a Brit, but the actual actor who plays him (all of them) have fakey British accents. |
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| Lord Vexen |
Re: James Bond 22: Quantum of Solace
Automatic demotion for making fun of Sean Connery. |
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| Lord Invictus |
No, Sean Connery is Scottish, dude! He's the only good one, but I prefer his other works. | ||||
| Rive Caedo |
Re: James Bond 22: Quantum of Solace
Did you see Casino Royale? It was a reset of the franchise and brought it back to much more realistic levels. They sort of needed to do that since Die Another Day was so over the top it was basically a self-parody (I did like the very beginning though!). I can't judge how the Bourne movies measure up to Reset 007 because I haven't seen them (I caught the first half hour or so of the first one on HBO years... then changed the channel because I wasn't interested - maybe it got better after that or I was just in a bad mood). But, Casino Royale was at least a 3 star (out of 4) movie. Which gives me high hopes for the sequel. |
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| Xander Vos |
Daniel Craig has got to be Sean's only rival to the best Bond portrayer.
I love these movies. The theme for Casino Royale was brilliant, love the song. I've read all the books (including the new one, which was great! Hopefully a movie of it soon!) but haven't seen all the movies. |
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| Tom |
Re: James Bond 22: Quantum of Solace
I mean all the actors who have played bond are british. (Irish, Scottish, and English), so how can they have fakey British accents. |
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| Xander Vos |
Brosnan's American isn't he? And Lazemby's Australian. | ||||
| Lord Embeion |
Re: James Bond 22: Quantum of Solace
Don't be so stupid.. Remember the time period when the books were written. You could slap a Women and nothing would happen and back then those cheap lines had game. Bourne is a modern day James Bond The series has continued because of people growing up on the books and movies. I agree with Vexen to.. automatic demotion. |
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| Xander Vos |
The lines don't actually come from the books, though the new book has some groaners. | ||||
| Tom |
Bronsan is Irish. Lazemby is Austrailian. |
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| Xander Vos |
Hmm I thought one of them was American? Or is Brosnan just based in America? | ||||
| Lord Embeion |
Nope | ||||
| Grand Vizier Tarna |
First off, I have equal respect for the three JB Agents.
James Bond Jack Bauer Jason Bourne Secondly, I can't wait for this movie, although the trailer isn't as gripping as Casino Royale's. One watch of the Royale trailer, and I was crapping my pants waiting to see it. Quantum trailer = pretty good, not wonderful. Third, I DESPISE this new theme song! What the hell!?!? It's horrible! |
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| Anakin |
Wow this is like literally the 25th one? | ||||
| Lord Invictus |
I can't help it. I despise James Bond. Sean Connery is a great actor, but I think he threw his lot in with the wrong movie series.
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DELETE THE LINK! NOW! I hate that song so much! |
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| Xander Vos |
Urgh, just checked it out. I LOVE I Know Your Name, listen to it a lot on my iPod. This? This is horrible!
Invictus, have you even SEEN Casino Royale all the way through? Please do! You'll enjoy it! |
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| Dork of Mordork |
The type of gun Bond uses can't even penetrate a propane tank like it does in (I think) Casino Royale. 
Plus, when a real tank does get shot, it would spin around spewing out clouds of gases, not a huge explosion. MythBusters had a special on it recently. I've never been a fan of James Bond very much. The old Sean Connery ones were okay to a limit. Haha, I like this stand up by Joby Saad, where he's doing an impression of a James Bond movie. "And he kicks him! [James] And he's falling off the building-ahhhhh-ahhhhh-ahhhh!- And he reaches into his pocket and pulls out a POCKET HELICOPTER! *Helicopter noises* *Mimicking the James Bond theme song*"
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| Rive Caedo |
Well I'm glad that most people seem to agree with me that the new theme song is junk 
A tank blew up in Casino Royale? But yes, that's obviously true. The propane tank one is a bit more interesting. Since, although I would bet new propane tanks could endure a pistol shot, I wouldn't think the same would hold true for the propane tank you'd be likely to find at an African embassy - which would likely be old and perhaps manufactured from non-ideal materials. Also: I saw a MythBuster's special where they were surprised to find that the engine blast from 747 landing throws a car almost identically to the way the police car was thrown in Casino Royale.
22nd as the thread title indicates. Actually, it's the 23rd if you want to include "Never Say Never Again", which was a remake of Thunderball that Sean Connery did for another company. It's the 24th if you want to include the old Casino Royale, but that was a parody movie so it'd be really silly to include. Dr. No 1962 From Russia with Love 1963 Goldfinger 1964 Thunderball 1965 You Only Live Twice 1967 Casino Royale (Parody film by a different company) 1967 On Her Majesty's Secret Service 1969 Diamonds Are Forever 1971 Live and Let Die 1973 The Man with the Golden Gun 1974 The Spy Who Loved Me 1977 Moonraker 1979 For Your Eyes Only 1981 Octopussy 1983 Never Say Never Again (Different company) 1983 A View to a Kill 1985 The Living Daylights 1987 Licence to Kill 1989 GoldenEye 1995 Tomorrow Never Dies 1997 The World Is Not Enough 1999 Die Another Day 2002 Casino Royale 2006 Quantum of Solace 2008 |
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| Lord Invictus |
I saw it. It was moderately better than the others, and I enjoyed some of the realistic parts, but the story itself was pathetic. GAMBLE TO SAVE THE FREE WORLD!!!! Hmph, I know there's more to the story than that, but that's the essential bit
Yay! I've been listening to Soviet music (... it's REALLY good opera) for like four hours. BTW, I REALLY like opera.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JO5-hM6xKt4 |
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| Anakin |
I remember playing the Golden eye game, which was awesome back then. Ah, the memories... | ||||
| Grand Vizier Tarna |
I thought the GoldenEye movies was the only Brosnan would I could appreciate. The other three were blegh.
My favorites Bond is Daniel Craig, no question. It's probably: Daniel Craig Roger Moore Pierce Brosnan Sean Connery Timothy Dalton George Lazenby |
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| Xander Vos |
That wasn't the plot at all.... And you do realise that its based on the books, which were incredibly brilliant. The Bourne movies are horrible, Americanised parodies of Bond. |
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| Lord Vexen |
Agreed...I hated them and found them absolutly boring. |
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| Dork of Mordork |
I'd have to disagree there. 
I see no resemblance in the Bourne movies and Bond movies. Besides the fact that Bourne isn't a completely cheesy, shooting rockets out of his cigarette...guy. Just give me some proof how Bourne is an "Americanized parody of Bond" For the record, the Bourne books are way better, hardly like the movies, and if you said they were even similar, even the tiniest bit a rip off of Bond, I wouldn't be able to help myself but laugh. "My name is Bond...James Bond, and I've come to pick up my laundry" |
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| Lord Invictus |
...   ....
That's a filthy, dirty, rotten, lie. Bourne are amazing. Everything that happens in Bourne is possible and, in fact, realistic. THEY WERE WRITTEN BY A FORMER MEMBER OF THE CIA (or um.... FBI???... I think he was CIA....). They follow a continuous storyline (suck it, Bond), they don't have cheesy lines (Bourne.... Jason Bourne), they have amazing soundtrack (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_3qfS3iD7Y&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98ngMkvxsAg&feature=related must I post more?) they feature some great actors, a great plot, a visable difference from James Bond, fighting sequences that are- realistically- somewhat short, and three books that are supposed to be quite good, but I quit due to the ammount of times "Bourne gripped his head" "Bourne crushed the opponant with a groin-kick, four punches in the gut, and an elbow to the neck" and "WTF IS GOING ON HEYAH?!" I love the movies- only advantage Bond has is he's British- but the books are.... somewhat OKAY. IMO, Bond in no way stands a chance against Bourne... EVER. |
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| Lord Vexen |
I don't go for realism lol...I go for good action and a decent plotline, which Bourne fails to deliver IMO. | ||||
| Darth Splinter |
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| Dork of Mordork |
Rive, when I said a tank blew up I meant a propane tank.
Invictus and Splinter are mehbuddiesnow. CIA is right. I never got lost in the Bourne books.
Haha, yep, both the Bourne movies and books have continuous story lines, which isn't the same with Bond.
"My name is Bond...James Bond." 'My name is Bond...James Bond.' "...Actually, my name is Bond...James Bond." Bond is overrated and cheesily stupid in my opinion. Keep the pocket helicopters to yourself, it's better that way. Wonder what'll happen when all the girls Bond "falls in love" with and gets all involved with meet. |
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| Anakin |
Bond has a different woman every week. | ||||
| Journey |
How many times has a pocket helicopter featured in a Bond film? Just out of curiosity.
If you go into a Bond film looking for realism then you should be going home straight after the previews. It's like going into a Die Hard film looking for a hard-hitting story, it just doesn't happen. Saying a film is unrealistic isn't a valid reason for not liking a film. I mean c'mon, you're posting this on a Star Wars forum. |
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| Lord Vexen |
Valid point there. |
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| Lord Invictus |
I like films that are realistic depending on the story and setting. star Wars is meant to be a science fiction movie- not realistic. Bond are supposed to be CIA-ish movies (what's his organization again? It's the British Secret Service. I know what it is normally.... dangit), and are totally unrealistic for a genre that should generally follow realism as closely as possible (what if a Band Of Brothers-ish show had grenade-watches and airplanes on people's backs?) |
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| Xander Vos |
He's a member of MI6... Anyone commenting on the unrealistic nature of Bond is talking about the old films. Specifically the Brosnan years. Sean Connery's were great films and still quite realistic. Specifically Gold Finger, my favourite of the old films. Compare Casino Royale and Quantam of Solace to the three Bourne films and you'll find the TWO Bond films trump the THREE Bourne films easily. |
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| Lord Vexen |
I certainly do. And Invictus, you are thinking of Interpol. |
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| Lord Invictus |
Interpol is a drug agency internationally used in France (.... ugh .... French...) correct? How the heck does that relate to anything???
Bond trump Bourne? How so? Bourne has them beat in every way possible. |
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| Anakin |
Not only France but...well everywhere. Interpol has international authority, at least, in the developed nations. | ||||
| Rive Caedo |
When did this become the Bourne vs. Bond debate thread?!
Quantum of Solace will continue directly from Casino Royale. There were a few minor story points that carried over from movie to movie (particularly in the Roger Moore films) in the old ones. But there weren't really any direct sequels.
... I want to see this non-existent show. Now. 
As for Old Bond's gadgets (Casino Royale didn't really have any)... if submarine cars are wrong, I don't want to be right! 
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| Dork of Mordork |
In your opinion. |
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| Yodafueva me |
Exactly! Moot point, Xander. It's all opinion. Compare them and I'll still find I like Bourne better (except I like Casion Royal better than Ultimatum, but the other two trump Royale.) |
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| Lord Vexen |
Bond beats Bourne because the new Bond girl has 12 fingers. Mega-pwn | ||||
| Anakin |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLPp8y-mEhw
1:39-1:41 is the probably the one cool thing I saw in the trailer. |
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| Darth Splinter |
I listened to the theme song for the first time and it made me want to gag! Horrible! | ||||
| Xander Vos |
Can't believe no one's talking about this. Saw it yesterday and loved it. Thankfully the theme song was only extensively used in the opening credits (as opposed to variants played throughout like with "You Know My Name" in Casino Royale) and I quite liked it as a Bond film. Agreed, as a "sequel" it fell a bit short in terms of story, but going in expecting Bond, I got exactly what I wanted, and then some. When was the last time a 'good' guy died in Bond that wasn't a girl and had been in more than one of the movies?? | ||||
| Darth Splinter |
The guy who played Q. |
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| Tom |
I felt that was one of my fav moments of the film tbf.
And I loved the beginning scene, and how the door comes off, i donno why, but i just loved the action in this film. |
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| Anakin |
Anyone also think that the archenemy in this film looked like a rat? | ||||
| Sirak Sazen |
I haven't seen Casino Royale yet. I here the Quantam of Solace game is good. | ||||
| Lord Invictus |
I heard it got bad reviews... | ||||
| Rive Caedo |
*Necros due to the DVD being released and Rive finally seeing this movie*
Well that was very!!!.... Okay. Heh. There were aspects I liked. I did like that they brought Mathis back, which I didn't expect. But really, I can't get over the fact that it only took them one movie to revert from "Alright, let's reboot Bond - it's become too over the top and silly" (which they did very very successfully in Casino Royale) to "Hey, you know what would be neat? If basically every scene in the movie featured superfluous explosions and glass shattering!" ... I'm seriously considering watching the movie again and ONLY focusing on counting how many panes of glass they break throughout the film. It was ridiculous. And so, Bond returns once again to the territory of "fun popcorn flick". It's a shame, since Casino Royale was a grade up from that. But, at least it's still fun. |
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| Xander Vos |
I consider Casino Royale in the top three Bond films of all time - along with Goldfinger and From Russia With Love - and hope they return to something more like that for the next one.
QoS did have some nice references in it, "Strawberry Fields" and her Goldfinger-esque death were rather neat.
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| Journey |
I preferred Quantum...
... What can I say, I'm a sucker for pretty ladies and 'splosions. |
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